Talk:Battlezone II: Combat Commander

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Flesh storm taken out as it does not have any relavent sites to its name, seems to be just a minor mod for the game, of no real influence or importance. (Sahands)

I've re-added FleshStorm in to the entry again with more links this time and a better description. (hopefully). FleshStorm was the first mod (better a Total Conversion) to be completed and to come out since Forgotten Enemies. Since The Section Modifications was created for Modifications, it would be fair to have it in there (imo). I also added a cover art picture. (lucky_foot)


nice man, it needed one. (Sahands)

Added Actors and Actresses section so people would have a link to the people who played the voices. I mean, How many new that Colonel Decker from the A-Team played Major Manson? :D (lucky_foot) 9-14-06

Corrected (I think) a few of the typos I put in here a couple of years ago. Glad to see that someone has expanded on the initial 1.3 content, but I'm not sure that new members to the BZII community are going to be worried about online play; Whenever I log on, every single server is password protected. Personally, I'd be fine with just the Instant Action mode if the mortar weapons were removed or a static anti-artillery base defense was introduced. (Kalthuras) 9-29-06

Well, in the 1.3pb3 patch that was released, you can pick Recycler variants and Rocket Towers have been added to the list. (lucky foot) 10-11-06

Now that is music to my ears. Going to reinstall the game and see if my turtle tactics aren't so doomed this time. (Kalthuras) 10-19-06

Turtle tactics are always doomed, you have to go around the map and get biometal pools otherwise the other player will and it doesnt matter what kind of shit u got in ur base if he has more extractors then you--66.102.73.162 (talk) 05:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)--66.102.73.162 (talk) 05:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Turtle tactics work fine if you execute it right, but of all the possable strategies, it is the hardest to pull off. --76.116.57.5 (talk) 20:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Units!

Could someone please put a list of units Scion or Isdf please —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.240.20.138 (talk) 20:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Why? - lucky_foot 12/11/06

Would be a bit of an endeavour, as we'd need to detail vehicles, their hardpoints, what can be mounted in each hardpoint, and then, by default, have to detail the weapons and their ammo consumption... it'd be a mess, probably. Kalthuras 21:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I think a list of the ISDF and Scion units would require a separate article. However, it wouldn't have to be so in-depth as Kalthuras talks about (unless we make sub-articles on each unit). A simple list of vehicle names, some pictures and brief descriptions of their role would be enough, I guess. -Sybaronde

@ The game manual would be a start, it has brief descriptions of the common vehicles and would give the backbone to the article- the-unko-lema

[edit] Link to my wiki

Copyrighted material hmmm. Ok, I will have to figure out how to make sure the information on my page is compleatly legal, but this is something that will take some time. Mabey lucky foot can help as he is a member of my wiki. For anyone who wants to help clense the info, just go to the bzwiki link from an old page revision. I don't have a user but I will sign as ~Nielk1 <72.89.162.195 01:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)> (Laptop IP)

Best way to do that is look at the standard copyright laws. I don't see anything on your wiki that violates any of the copyright laws since it's public novels. If you have like a .pdf of the original battlezone II manual online then that maybe ilegal. Lucky Foot

In looking, I have had alot of trouble finding the infringing material. I am at a new site now, which is compleatly reworked, but I have alot more work to do. The new domain is http://www.bzcomplex.com . I hope to fix any issues that it may have. I see that, for example, although the screenshots of mods are not copyrighted, I did not include rational. Does this site fit the requirements of a linked site, or do I need to do more work on it. --76.116.57.5 (talk) 20:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Edit

Added "pb3" to the patch number since 1.3 Public Beta could have been referring to 1.3pb1,pb2, or pb3. Lucky Foot 17:40, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error in catergorization?

I noticed that the releasedate on the table says 2000, but still it's in a category for "video games 1999". -Sybaronde


"When I did a search online I found the release date being said December 21st, 1999. I'm going to email a friend who may know the Release date." Lucky Foot 18:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps there are multiple release dates or something? -Sybaronde

"I emailed Ken Miller, one of the programmers that wrote Battlezone II: Combat Commander (I met him through an article interveiw), and he said the game was released late December of 1999." Lucky Foot 20:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other games like Battlezone 2?

Battlezone 2 (and Battlezone 1) is truly an addictive game and has unique gameplay. But it really is starting to show its age in terms of graphics and whatnot.

Is there any other games similar in style and feel to this game that you would recommend?...

ie- RTS and FPS combination hybrids... preferably one that involves strategy- base building, vehicles and commanding would be way fun. Something which captures the feel of the instant missions in Battlezone 2. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.101.41.44 (talk) 03:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

"Not that I know of. I have had the honor to interveiw some of the original programmers of both BZ1 and BZ2 and most say that the game didn't sell well and so publishers will stay away from the RTS/FPS genre cross over. I have played a bunch of games and I haven't seen any that even come close to the playing Style BZ2 presented." - Lucky Foot 13:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Operation Flashpoint Mods mfcti (mfcti.sourceforge.net) and crcti (google) feature a remarkably similar gaming environment, with base building, one commander and several squad leaders per faction, cities that need to be conquered (resource pools), salvaging destroyed vehicles (resource gathering) and AI substituting for human players. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.114.62.65 (talk) 14:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gameplay

There needs to be more discussion about gameplay in this article, as well as the original game's. Is there base and unit building? What makes this game a strategy game? SharkD 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Forgotten Enemies

Why was the link to the official forgotten enemies website removed? It is the biggest most played mod of BZ2. AgentFish 21 June 2007

Probably because the site is gone... There is a mirror somewhere, but it has some odd text errors.
-Nielk1 76.116.57.5 04:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Some Cleanup and Changes

I added the Gameplay section and changed some naming. I commented out the Unit descriptions as they seem to be long, clanky and not need. I didn't delete it from the source if it needs to be re-added. Just take away the comments brackets. :D Lucky Foot (talk) 15:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reverted Blue Devil Character

I made the change to the page where it says Chang Wasanasong played Blue Devil. There is no such character in Battlezone II: Combat Commander. I've played the single player over 20 times and that name never ever came up. :D Lucky Foot (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)