Talk:Battle of Franklin II

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Not sure it's fair to put this in Category:Union victories of the American Civil War, as the Confederates did succeed in their aims -- at a horrible price.

dino 22:29, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, I would classify this as a Confederate phyrric victory.

Khan_singh 21:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Uh, actually, no. The Confederate objective was to prevent Schofield from joining Thomas, not capture Franklin, and it failed twice--the second time at a horrible price. --Buckboard 00:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Georgia?

The battle of Franklin occurred in Franklin Tennessee but for some reason it is under wikiproject Georgia. Unless someone gives me a good reason for this I will change it to Tennessee tomorrow. SMBriscoe 16:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It had a direct affect upon Sherman's Georgia campaing. However, this isn't really relavant, because under that it it could be said that it saved the northern states from invasion, and so fits under, say, Ohio. Randaly 13:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)Randaly

[edit] Victory

To the anonymous user who keeps reverting the battle box results field: There is a rule in Wikipedia that you are not allowed to revert more than three times in a single day. For users who choose to identify themselves, violation of this rule can result in temporary suspension of editing privileges. For anonymous users, it means I just get to keep undoing your reversions until you get sick of it.

With very few exceptions, we adhere to the National Park Service battle descriptions when it comes to names of battles, naming the victor, locations, dates, etc. The results of the battle are footnoted in this article. If you disagree with this result, you need to provide citations from secondary sources that can balance the NPS result. This is obviously better as part of the text of the article, not the one-phrase result in the battle box.

In the Battle of Franklin, Hood was attempting to prevent Schofield's army from joining with Thomas's in Nashville. After Hood suffered devastating losses, Schofield continued his movement toward Nashville. There is no way that you can claim this battle was a Confederate victory, Pyrrhic or not. Hal Jespersen 00:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

word.--Buckboard 00:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buckboard (talk • contribs)

[edit] Casualties

In correcting the reported Confederate losses in officers, I corrected the information, repeated in many places, about the "65 field grade officers". It was actually much more catastrophic, even with the generals included, than previously reported, because the losses were all commanders. The source is Gen. Cox's monograph on the battle, which used Official Records as its sources. the pertinent passage: But this was only a part of the response to his order immediately after the battle, that "Corps commanders will send in at once a list of the division, brigade, and regimental commanders by name and rank, who were killed or wounded so as to be unfit for service, in the engagement of yesterday evening." The complete return is a roll of honor which fills nearly three pages of the published official records, and of which the summary is five general officers killed, six wounded, and one captured; six colonels killed, fifteen wounded, and two missing; two lieutenant colonels killed and nine wounded; three majors killed, five wounded, and two missing; two captains killed, three wounded, and four missing: a total of sixty-five. Remember that none of these were exercising a less command than that of a regiment. --Buckboard 11:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)