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[edit] List and number

Most sources give a figure of 331 baronies, but some say 273. I have consulted and compared a number of sources:

rootsweb: Walsh, Dennis (2003). Barony Map of Ireland. Retrieved on 2007-02-13. Source given is "Ordnance survey"
ANHI: (1984) A New History of Ireland: Volume IX: Maps, Genealogies, Lists: A Companion to Irish History, Part II 9, maps 119-121. ISBN 0198217455. Source given is "County boundaries, barony boundaries", scale 1:633600, Ordnance Survey of Ireland, 1938
Mitchell: Mitchell, Brian (1986). A new genealogical atlas of Ireland. Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co.. ISBN 0-8063-1152-5. Source given is Thom, Alexander (1861, based on 1851 census). General index to the Townlands and Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland. Quotes figure of 331 baronies.
Ryan: Ryan, James G. (1999). Irish Records: Sources for Family and Local History. Ancestry Inc.. ISBN 0-916489-76-0. No source given, but Mitchell is listed in bibliography. Quotes figure of 273, thiough the maps show c.331!

The maps in these sources largely agree, and produce a figure of about 331. The following list enumerates these and highlights points of difference or uncertainty (my uncertainty, I mean, not the authors'). I've only noted the largest cases where baronies cross county boundaries, and I'm sure subsequent boundary adjustments have added even more. The lower figure of 273 could be got by merging most or all of the pairs/trios/quartets distinguished as North/South, East/West, Upper/Lower, etc; are these half-baronies? Also, I don't think the boroughs are baronies. If this list can be reliably turned into 331 it can be added to the Article page; ideally, the 273 figure could also be accounted for. I have reached the limit of my knowledge of these matters and bequeath this to those more knowledgable for further improvement. jnestorius^(talk) 23:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

See also User:Jnestorius/Baronies of Ireland for possible 331 and 273 enumerations. jnestorius^(talk) 11:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Antrim

County Antrim

Antrim (Lower)
Antrim (Upper)
Belfast City -- not distinguished from Lower Belfast in ANHI
Belfast (Lower)
Belfast (Upper)
Carrickfergus
Cary
Dunluce (Lower)
Dunluce (Upper)
Glenarm (Lower)
Glenarm (Upper)
Kilconway
Massereene (Lower)
Massereene (Upper)
Toome (Lower)
Toome (Upper)

[edit] Armagh

County Armagh

Armagh
Fews (Lower)
Fews (Upper)
Oneilland (East)
Oneilland (West)
Orior (Lower)
Orior (Upper)
Tiranny

[edit] Carlow

County Carlow

Carlow
Forth
Idrone (East)
Idrone (West)
Rathvilly
St. Mullin's (Lower)
St. Mullin's (Upper)

[edit] Cavan

County Cavan

Castlerahan
Clankee
Clanmahon
Loughtee (Lower)
Loughtee (Upper)
Tullygarvey
Tullyhunco
Tullyhaw

[edit] Clare

County Clare

Bunratty (Lower)
Bunratty (Upper)
Burren
Clonderalaw
Corcomroe
Ibrickan
Inchiquin
Islands
Moyarta
Tulla (Lower)
Tulla (Upper)

also part of barony of Leitrim in Galway

[edit] Cork

County Cork

Bantry
Barretts
Barrymore
Bear
Carbery (East, East division) -- East Carbery is not subdivided into East and West divisions in ANHI
Carbery (East, West division)
Carbery (West, East division) -- West Carbery is not subdivided into East and West divisions in ANHI
Carbery (West, West division)
Condons & Clangibbon
Cork
Courceys
Duhallow
Fermoy
Ibane & Barryroe
Imokilly
Kerrycurrihy
Kinalea
Kinalmeaky
Kinnatalloon
Kinsale
Muskerry (East)
Muskerry (West)
Orrery and Kilmore

[edit] Donegal

County Donegal

Banagh
Boylagh
Inishowen (East)
Inishowen (West)
Kilmacrenan
Raphoe (North)
Raphoe (South)
Tirhugh

[edit] Down

County Down

Ards (Lower)
Ards (Upper)
Castlereagh (Lower)
Castlereagh (Upper)
Dufferin
Iveagh (Lower-Lower Half) -- Lower Iveagh is not separated into Upper and Lower halfs in ANHI
Iveagh (Lower-Upper Half)
Iveagh (Upper-Lower Half) -- Upper Iveagh is not separated into Upper and Lower halfs in ANHI
Iveagh (Upper-Upper Half)
Kinelearty
Lecale (Lower)
Lecale (Upper)
Lordship of Newry
Mourne

[edit] Dublin

County Dublin

Balrothery (East)
Balrothery (West)
Castleknock
Coolock
Dublin
Dublin City -- not distinguished from barony of Dublin in ANHI
Nethercross
Newcastle
Rathdown
Uppercross

[edit] Fermanagh

County Fermanagh

Clanawley
Clankelly
Coole
Knockninny
Lurg
Magheraboy
Magherastephana
Tirkennedy

[edit] Galway

County Galway

Aran -- not named in ANHI or rootsweb
Athenry
Ballymoe
Ballynahinch
Clare
Clonmacnowen
Dunkellin
Dunmore
Galway
Kilconnell
Kiltartan
Killian
Leitrim
Longford
Loughrea
Moycullen
Ross
Tiaquin

[edit] Kerry

County Kerry

Clanmaurice
Corkaguiny
Dunkerron (North)
Dunkerron (South)
Glanarought
Iraghticonnor
Iveragh
Magunihy
Trughanacmy

[edit] Kildare

County Kildare

Carbury
Clane
Connell
Ikeathy & Oughterany
Kilcullen
Kilkea & Moone
Naas (North)
Naas (South)
Narragh & Reban (East)
Narragh & Reban (West)
Offaly (East)
Offaly (West)
Salt (North)
Salt (South)

[edit] Kilkenny

County Kilkenny

Callan
Crannagh
Fassadinin
Galmoy
Gowran
Ida
Iverk
Kells
Kilculliheen -- assigned to County Waterford in Ryan; shown as a parish in barony of Iverk in Mitchell
Kilkenny City
Knocktopher
Shillelogher