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[edit] Fuzzy Wuzzy cont.

I honestly don't remember if I saw your work before doing mine or not, but I never claimed that the research was mine, because it was not. It was from the Kipling Society, which I link to from Wikisource. I loved their work but hated the design of the website and having to flip between windows to read the poem or check if there were notes on a particular line. (The frames weren't working right for me then, although they seem fine with my current set-up.) That was what drove me to take on the project at Wikisource. Considering my links match their info much more closely than yours (Pathan vs. 2nd Afghan War), I feel rather confident in my memory of being inspired from that website. But I never claim in the interview to have done anything special in tracking down what the references were about. I am happy to admit I got it pre-packaged. My main contribution is simply figuring out where Wikipedia had the info (i.e. 2nd Afgan War doesn't have it's own article) and making editorial decisions about what was too common knowledge or not covered well enough to link to.--BirgitteSB 05:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. In any case, it's a small matter compared to you getting the mop. Congratulations! - BanyanTree 06:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much!--BirgitteSB 06:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BanyanTree at Wikimedia Commons

If you are one and the same as BanyanTree at Wikimedia Commons, then I think you will understand that a sock puppet of Grawp has been causing problems [1] over at Wikimedia Commons. Do you think the user account in question (Gavin.collins over at Wikimedia Commons) could be reassigned to me? --Gavin Collins (talk) 21:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I am indeed the same user. I have to admit that I am not nearly as familiar with Commons precedent and procedures as I should be. (My cleanup yesterday was the first time I'd used my Commons mop in three months or so.) I recommend repeating your question to Herbythyme, who is a pillar of the Commons community, is already familiar with the situation (having investigated several related sleeper accounts yesterday) and is so good-natured he makes me feel inadequate as an admin. Feel free to say that I recommend him to you. Also, it would be worth registering your name on at least the top 10 Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects (Wiktionary, Wikisource, etc) until single-user login becomes generally available. Good luck, BanyanTree 22:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] M4+2 engine

The reasons for deletion given by nominator no longer exist. At least 4 out of 5 references are valid sources according to WP:N, and after they were added there were no more votes. So I don't understand your ruling. I was sure the AfD procedure is not a majority vote, otherwise any attempt to improve the article during that would be just pure waste of time. Please reconsider relisting it one more time. greg park avenue (talk) 12:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, that was confusing. That may be the last time I use the provided delete link in an AFD header, as I couldn't tell that the page had been moved and couldn't figure out why the article still existed.
To your point, later AFD participants had a chance to evaluate the journal article, which appears to be the strongest support for notability, and still thought it merited deletion. I looked over the web-based articles and none appeared to have the weight of a journal article. (The cosmetic changes obviously don't establish notability, neither does the patent link as nobody is disputing that it exists.) I am satisfied that this is an accurate reading of the consensus, though would understand if you want to take it to Wikipedia:Deletion review. Thanks, BanyanTree 20:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for understanding and for kindly supplying the advise. You sound as an expert in this particular field, so I gather I might just follow it. greg park avenue (talk) 21:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion Review for M4+2 engine

An editor has asked for a deletion review of M4+2 engine. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. greg park avenue (talk) 21:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I have added my reasoning above. Thanks, BanyanTree 22:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

At the suggestion of lifebaka, I have userfied the article's content and history to User:Greg park avenue/M4+2 engine, so that Greg park avenue can have a few weeks/months to try to improve it. I thought I ought to let you know. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 02:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the note. - BanyanTree 02:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Sinebot stuff

Yep. The API can pop out a user's 'x' amount of contribs, including on a given page (e.g., SineBot's last 5 on the Rosa Parks talk page). You just have to prettyify the output so that it displays at the top of your watchlist. I bet there's something hiding on the toolserver for at least prettyifying the api result, but I'm not sure if there's a user-friendly drop in for the watchlist, possibly due to the added ease with which one would be able to wikistalk non-bots. :P --slakr\ talk / 07:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, but this seems a little beyond my non-techie skills. I was hoping that there was a Monobook script that someone with a similar issue had come up with. The simplest course appears to continue looking for the "reverted to Sinebot" messages when patrolling my watchlist. Cheers, BanyanTree 08:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Edits on "History of Darfur Page"

I'm not sure who edited the history of Darfur page; however, I know the rules of Wikipedia and have no reason to insert random letters into an article. 74.161.9.175 17:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

In order to avoid getting messages that don't apply to you, I recommend creating an account. Thanks, BanyanTree 21:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Aboke Girls De Temmerman.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Aboke Girls De Temmerman.jpg. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of fair use, but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets Wikipedia's requirements for such images. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check

  • That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
  • That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

The following images also have this problem:

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --05:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, you lovely little bot. - BanyanTree 05:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MalePenis picture

Hi, thanks for approving the picture so it can be posted in the article. However a user removed it for being "unencyclopedic". Is can you confirm that the image is encyclopedic? Thanks again. 69.29.254.57 (talk) 22:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, As an administrator on the bad image list, I evaluate requests purely on if they are intended to cause vandalism/disruption. A picture of penis on the penis page is not vandalism obviously, but the question of which image best helps illustrates the article is a content dispute that is beyond my activities on the bad image list. You will have to discuss the matter with editors at Talk:Penis, as with any other content dispute. Thanks, BanyanTree 23:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ITN candidate page mockup

Thanks for getting started on this, and setting up the timer. After much trial and error, I think I've managed a method to transclude everything automatically, using a fancy template and the talk pages of the current events pages.--Pharos (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Ooh, that's clever. I wouldn't have thought of using the current events' talk pages. I'll drop a note into the ITN reform discussion so people can check it out. Thanks, BanyanTree 00:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Have I been too WP:BOLD? Maybe, but I'm hopeful.--Pharos (talk) 09:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, someone was either going to make a move or nothing was going to happen. There are far too many people who think that the template stagnation is a result of uninterested admins or lack of will, rather than a structural problem.
I don't quite understand Random89's objection. The proposal page to reform ITN is clearly the appropriate forum, and the discussion was well advertised. He can make a case that there is never going to be a clear consensus and therefore nothing should be done, but to state that consensus must be reached in two separate forums is not supported by any precedent I can think of. - BanyanTree 10:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, it would be great if you could back me up at Template talk:In the news.--Pharos (talk) 10:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trial run on ITN reform proposal

I have now proposed a one-week trial run for the ITN reform proposal at Template talk:In the news#Change in ITN/c format. Please comment there. Also, I'm going to be away from the computer for the next few days, and will not return till the time the trial run starts (and it's possible I might be a couple of hours late); it would be great if you could keep an eye on things. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Trial period has started. I hope you can help[ me in administering it. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 00:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I'd like to change Template:ITN-Update to update every 24 hours, not 12. This would be more conservative, and is the way most people (mis)interpreted it anyway. Actually, my idea was originally that we would have two items added at a time every 24 hours or so, not updates every 12 hours. It would be good if you could help me fix the template, which I can't get to work with 24 hours. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 17:28, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Oops. I made a quick adjustment for 24 hours. The intermediate color will eventually have to be chosen separately, as right now it goes straight from beige to red. - BanyanTree 23:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional character

What specific part of that page have I violated? It should be obvious from context that the characters are fictional. An encyclopedia would never refer to a real person as a character.

When I see that so and so is a "fictional character in so and so series", I assume that he/she is a fictional character within the universe of that show, a la Itchy and Scratchy in The Simpsons. The phrase only properly applies to a handful of articles. Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 06:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

(ec) I'm not defending the MOS. I'm informing you of it. Check out the articles linked from Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)#List of exemplary articles. - BanyanTree 07:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'll take my argument there. Thanks. Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 07:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Good work on the CCM article, by the way. A definite candidate for Did you know. Polemarchus (talk) 01:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it would be except that new articles that are put into ITN are disqualified from DYK for being attention hogs. :( Cheers, BanyanTree 02:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. I guess ITN's even better :-) Polemarchus (talk) 03:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The current Revolution at ITN

Moved barnstar to User:BanyanTree. 02:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm glad someone likes it. We'll see what manages to stick around once the trial ends. - BanyanTree 22:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User page comment issue...

Huh?

I use Firefox 2 and WP:TWINKLE, so would reasonably have expected it to save longs pages. I hope the 'loss' of comments, was reverted quickly, if not that page needs an inteligent rollback ASAP.

Would also be appreciated if someone raised the issue with TWINKLE developers.

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Like, I said, I don't know if that the cause, but it certainly looks like something I've seen before. It has nothing to do with TWINKLE, as it's purely an issue with the browser of the user. If it's not that, I have no idea. In any case, I reverted the mass blanking. - BanyanTree 11:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Autoblocks

Hi. Just thought I'd leave a quick note about this. In cases where it appears that a user has been unblocked, but they still cannot edit, it is likely an autoblock on the account. To unblock these, we need more information, which can be asked for by using {{autoblock}}. Re-blocking and unblocking won't do anything. Anyhow, I've taken care of this one. - Rjd0060 (talk) 16:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I don't know how it's possible to be an admin for several years without knowing that, but that really was the first time I've ever seen that. Cheers, BanyanTree 21:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ITN trial

I am really upset about how this ITN trial has been rammed through the system by people who don't actually participate in ITN or ITN/C regularly. I am also disappointed in Pharos's attitude towards people who are trying to point out the shortcomings of the trial process, which is much more dismissive than would serve all of our purposes. I think I've noted all of that on the template talk page, but I appreciate you making me aware of the rules and trying to unblock me before. -- Grant.Alpaugh 21:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ITN Zimbabwe

Is that really a big enough story to post, seems rather trivial in the day to day dealings of that part of the world? --Stephen 02:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It was on the front page of BBC News and The Washington Post when I posted it to ITN. Zimbabwe is currently one of the big kerfuffles, even in that part of the world, with African Union members beginning to finally question things and South Africa's Mbeki coming under some major flack for his wait and see policy. This also links into the recent South Africa anti-immigrant riots, as many of the migrants are Zimbabweans fleeing the country. Given that Tsvangirai may have actually won the first round outright, this is generally considered another marker pointing to a total bloodbath in the near future. Also I don't do relative regional comparisons - to do so would lead to morally abhorrent practices like figuring out what fraction of a 'real person' an African is worth. - BanyanTree 05:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

The Minor Barnstar
For correcting a ridiculously simple mistake on Found poetry. Justpassin (talk) 03:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Ha! Not at all. I've done that myself and sat around wondering, "Where did half of my article go to?" Cheers, BanyanTree 06:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] changin referenced text

Thanks for the tip. I can assure you it is not my intention to alter the information under reference in any way that might be seen to mislead anyone. I try to improve syntax and phraseology, as well as elaborate, and equivocate, the article as far as may be appropriate. If this turns out not to be appropriate, I will not argue. Both elaboration and equivocation are potentially controversial, I admit. I say again though, my only intention is to improve any article's readability by the balance and harmoniseation of the arguments within. If you ask me this improves the encyplopedicness of a text. I ultimately do not alter tha facts. I am also - as far as the Rwandan Genocide is of concern, entirely objective; being from the U.K, with a critical, rather than cynical attitude.

WikieWikieWikie (talk) 11:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I haven't actually identified an actual problem from my brief scan of your edits. I felt there was a potential concern there, especially given how contentious the topic can be. Cheers, BanyanTree 13:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hi, (asking you as it seems you are the main editor)

Why do we not have two different articles on the LRA ind LRA insurgency, like all other conflicts?

Cheers, --TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Y'know, I came across a stub for Second Ugandan Civil War once that seemed to be an attempt to break out the conflict and recommended a merge it into the LRA article. (That seems to be a term used entirely by some activists.) I suppose that it's largely a function that the conflict is peculiarly configured by the idiosyncrasies of the LRA and I can't think of the conflict without thinking of the LRA, in particularly Kony. It seems to me that a conflict article would seem nonsensical without a thorough understanding of the wackiness of the LRA, so it makes sense that they are one article. I'm not against separate articles, but I'm not sure what the value added is to taking that step. What do you think? - BanyanTree 01:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I've heard that Uganda, Congo and S.Sudan are preparing an offensive against the LRA. Since I'm going probably to work on it I will be against naming it Lord's Resistance Army (2008-present) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 08:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
That's understandable. Do you just want to add to the Lord's Resistance Army#Developments since 2005 section or do you want a separate article to play with? If you want, I could move Lord's Resistance Army (2002-2005) to Lord's Resistance Army (2002-2007) and merge the info from Developments since 2005 in, leaving you the LRA article to yourself for the most recent events. I've gotten worn down by the slow motion edit warring over if the LRA is "Christian" or not, which is apparently the only thing most editors find interesting, so don't give that article nearly the attention I should, and would be OK with any solution you feel warranted. Thanks, BanyanTree 09:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Copied to Talk:Lord's Resistance Army for continued conversation. - BanyanTree 06:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2006–2008 Juba talks

Should the intro be updated before we put this up? Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 23:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks for reminding me. Give me a moment. - BanyanTree 23:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, that should do it. - BanyanTree 23:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Found poetry

I'm recruiting a bunch of people to edit or watchlist found poetry...so, uhm, yeah, I'm recruiting you. --Justpassin (talk) 01:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'm happy to watchlist. - BanyanTree 01:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)