Talk:Back to the Future: The Ride

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Contents 1 The actor being deleted? 2 Ride's Footage 3 Ride Closure 4 Replacement for California? 5 Article Cleanup Co-Ordination Point 5.1 Discussion 6 Cleanup 7 Cleanup done? 8 Blatant untruth? (see version history) 9 The Delorean on Display 10 Removing one "goof" 11 Internal inconsistency - reason for Hollywood construction 12 The reliability of reference 7

[edit] The actor being deleted?

Why is it that everytime that the actor Allen Waiserman is posted, he gets deleted? He was indeed the last person to leave the Right Imax Dome thanks to the employees and people at bttf.com He gets deleted yet this Irma person stays? Why? --76.173.166.221 (talk) 04:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

What is the deal with this information? If it is confirmed by a real news outlet, then why not leave it in? Why is it constantly added and deleted by guests? And now, one of them is giving a "warning" to the other guest. --blm07 10:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

i would like to see the news outlet that confirms this becuase the employess you say that confirmed allen waiserman have given written testamoines for irma for being the first and final, from the lead to 6 other cast members (workers), publicty manager and the secruity Guard on duty becuase of the thief happenings at the ride so the reason allen gets deleted is becuase theres is no proof by link the bttf forum group just shows a list of people the rode th last ride irma was amog them, look at the photo of the last riders from bttf and match it with the video of irma see if you could find her also go ahead and ask the bttf.com manager that was there wearing the red vest that nite, a group was entered last from the side gate that was including irma. So please SHOW me the PROOF of Allen Waiserman being at least one of the last riders that is approved with wikipedia guideline please read guidelines before putting up links, like youtube and myspace links are not approved by wikipedia thank you and have a nice nite —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thevictor (talk • contribs) 09:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

---Allen Waiserman WAS indeed last to ride it. In the picture of the last riders from bttf.com, Allen Waiserman's user name is BTTFRIDE939 as it's visible. The guy with the red life vest was NOT the bttf.com manager, he's just a fan who had connections to get the bttf.com members to get the last ride. Also, according to wiki[edia's rules, you need sources to prove something, and this Irma Gurin has NO sources to prove it at all. The video that is posted along from the news does not say anything about her being the last person. It only says that she was 3 when it first opened. No where does it say she was last.http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=0F023A13C3E45E541396F9127E152751?contentId=4254108&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1 So please, if you delete Allen (who WAS the last person, he has video proof that shall be posted later), also delete this Irma, because her sourse doesn't say anywhere that she was last. This is her so called "sourse" that says she was the last where no where does this video mention her being last, so please remove her. Allen was last. Allen's agent will be be in contact with wikipedia if this continues to be this way. Irma wasn't last, if she was, she'dput up real proof, not this video that just shows her talking, it doesnt mention her being last.--76.173.166.221 (talk) 04:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

oh come on is it another person arguing about this, ok with guidelins according to wikipedia irma giron is considered a piece of trivia please consider the disussion with david and thevictor david being the avid back to the future the ride wikipedia page monitor, i would like to see the so called sourse showing the allen was indeed the last person and please dont send me that list that shows names and only names, in an order that doesnt matter becuase i was there, in that line becuase of that red life vest guy, if you look at the picture that bttf.com took in front of back to the future the ride with there Forum name papers in front of them you will see irma's face, Allens "Agent" could go ahead and contact Wikipedia they will go ahead and send me an e-mail. If you need someone to talk to please talk to me if you really want proof go back to universal take irmas picture from some place, take her picture with you and find all the old back to the future the ride Employees and show her picture to them and you will get a response from them. <http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/lastofthefuture/?action=view&current=DSC02511.jpg> that picture link shows your so called last ride bttf.com forum people, it shows irma last and what about looking through the eyes of the employees and look at there picture forum <http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/lastofthefuture/>. Also if you look at this page <http://www.bttf.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33519&highlight=group+photo> it clearly states the name of Bill the Employee of Back to the Future the ride he is a great friend of irma and i, he helped her be th last one, becuase of bill, irma and i have something that no other person has. i will e-mail bill and tell him there soomebody that doesnt believe him. please use your signature when leaving a message like the one above becuase according to wikipedia you will be deleted and banned if you have no signature and are disputing and taking off information with no prior knowledge of past disputes--The Victor 12:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

-- The only reason it's being disputed is because more proof is that Allen was in the group picture from bttf.com! And according to wikipedia gidelines, you must have proof to back up statements, and the statement of Irma being last is backed up by that video. Nowhere in the video does it mention her being last. No where. And that picture you provided is extremely blurry. So seriously, give me written proof. I will stop arguing if you show me other proof other than that video, since it doesn't mention anywhere of her being last. Scan some written proof signed by a Universal employee and stamped with their official seal, and put it as source proof of her being last. That video just mentions her name and thats it. Nothing about being last. After speaking to Allen recently, he tells me this and i quote him:

"I met Irma in the line for last people, she's very nice. From what i understand, i was actually the last to exit from the Right Imax Dome, and she was the last on the Left Imax Dome. So technically she'slast from the left dome, and i from the right, making us both last. I don't want to have a fight but it would be nice to have some credit."

So at least give both Allen and Irma credit since technically there are TWO domes from Back To The Future, and Allen was last on the right dome, and Irma from the left. --76.173.166.221 (talk) 04:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

ok "according to wikipedia gidelines, you must have proof to back up statements" this is exactly what you said, therefore without written proof of you yourself, signed testamonie, video, picture proof, and or Detailed accounts with an employee verification then there is no way that you can become part of the trivia. For one the video states who she is what is her name and how long she has been riding back to the future the ride thats why that video is there according to Wikipedia Guidelines for "trivia" that is what is necessary. Another i can personally let bill contact you by e-mail (bill being the ride operater that helped all of you enter)and state that irma giron was last in line "IN LINE" AND "LAST TO LEAVE THE ENTIRE Ride" Last one. Also having Allen in a quote which is false is frowned upon in wikipedia, wikipedia stands for the truth with quotes and i'm sorry if you ""Met Allen"" or ""ARE Allen"" please state becuase for one Irma Giron did not interact with allen at all when in line becuase she was the last one i was there, there was no interaction with any of the of the orginal line for the last people only with the red vest person becuase he opened the door for our group to enter the side, and also for one a "GUEST" on Wikipedia can not and does not have the authority to ask for proof without proper signature. you want proof with offical seal haha offical seal are you serious do you think on that last day of the ride the operaters had the offical seal out and ready to stamp when they signed a paper stating that irma was first in line (another fact) which we have signed by the front console employee sitting down at his console which was bill. the trivia section states that irma giron was the last one out of the ride ok state this "THE RIDE" or as it states ""The first and final time traveler, to exit the halls of the Institute of Future Technology"" ok allen or who ever this is, it is stating that she was the last one out of the halls of the institute the whole huge ride "if you go back to the history section track down all the trivia information you will see the actul information that was suppose to be up there before somebody (which i remember it was someone just like you i dont know if it was you or not becuase your ip's are different but ip's can easly be changed automatically but thats a different story) added the words imax dome and kept adding the sentence left imax and right imax domes i have fixed the trivia section to how it was originaly stated before some person changed it.if its a fight you want then a fight you get but please dont call it a fight its a dispute so to say it write if its a dispute you want then its a dispute you get --The Victor 07:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

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Ok wow, this is nuts! Hi, this is Allen, and no, not this person arguing in my name, it's actually me. My friend told me there was some fight of some sort on the subject of me and BTTF on wikipedia and i had to join. First off,glad to join wikipedia! But i think this is hilarious. Second, i think this is one of my friends posting who missunderstood what i told them after Sept.3. All i ever said was that i was in the group of last riders with people from bttf.com. The quote that supposedly was from "me" this person made, i never said that. Anyways, i never talked to Irma at Universal,i only saw her and that's it. Anyways, i'd like this disputing to stop as i think it's ridiculous and it's giving me a bad name and people think i'm doing this! So person who is posting on my behald, please DON'T. Victor, sorry if this has caused you any trouble. Anyways, i WISH i was last to ride, but i wasn't, i was just in the last group, although i DID leave from the right ride dome. I seriously think this is one of my friends posting. Anyways, i wish i was last, but i wasn't, and if Irma was last, congrats to her! As long as it was a fellow BTTF fan and not some random park guest! For me, i'm happy that i got to be in the last group, that's enough for me! So um, sorry that there was a fight about me, but please stop. I'd really appreciate it. You're friend in time, Allen P.S. If you need to talk to me, go to my page! --9Allen93 (talk) 03:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

This is getting really annoying. All you people are just adding the "WOOHOO I'M LAST!" bit as a form of bragging rights, rather than contributing to Wikipedia. These are unnecessary facts. If you are actually going to do that, then I might as well put another list of all the other 190 people who attended the ride? Sure its a waste of space, but you guys sure love seeing that! 66.214.140.237 (talk) 03:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

ok so annoying, really its annoying, wow ok please state where its shows "ALL" the people that are adding ""WOOHOO I'M LAST" Irma is up there because its a fact, a part of "Trivia" there is no need for your hatred in this matter and please state how many there are that love "seeing that". a waste of space really ok maybe i should use sarcasim like you did lets see Sure its a waste of space, but everybody has there own opinion even those that do not even have a user name. i'm sorry that was mean i apologize--The Victor 07:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

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Woah Woah woah, hold your horses Viktor. Before you go accusing me of crap like bragging rights, please re-read my last post. Do I need to recopy it for you? I did not do any of this editing crap where "i" said i was last and all this crap, i don't need bragging rights, i have enough fans, i think one of my friends was editing this,i'll find soon enough which one of my friends. So please don't say that i want bragging rights, because i don't. I didn't even edit all of this or post that i was last, someone else did in my name i guess...but anyways, don't say i want bragging rights, i wasn't the last person on the ride, i was just in the last group! I don't want to write too much, because my whole explanation is posted up there. If you got something against me,tell me now. I don't want bragging rights, nor did i ever! Maybe one of my friends wanted it, but not me! So don't say "Maybe Allen wanted bragging rights" because i didn't, someone else was editing this in my name and making up a lot of crap. This is all ridiculous,my father was just searching for something, and got mad at this. He said this will bring a bad reputaion to my name! So can we just delete this whole section? I find it extremely annoying that someone would type crap in my name. So seriously Viktor, don't say "Allen wanted bragging rights" because i didn't, i wasn't the last person. If this continues, i'll just edit out this whole section, because it is bringing a bad name to me and i don't deserve that. This is ridiculous! --9Allen93 (talk) 00:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

woah harsh allen calm it down relax i have just messaged you on your talk page like i said before, in summary i'm sorry for the comment but for the sake of the discussion and the article it has to stay so everybody can read what happen and they could see why its up there and for the comment about you i am sorry i am going to try and delete it. Also a little tip if you want to not give yourself a bad rep watch the word "crap" dont worry you will find this person that did this and you could give him hell--The Victor 06:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ride's Footage

I put a link to the footage of the ride, you know, for people to enjoy, especially since the rumors of it closing down to create a "Simpsons" Ride are true. I now hate that show.--Ideal4real 00:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Ideal4real!!! Simpsons do suck. 65.34.136.176 19:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Where was it confirmed Simpsons?--Farquaadhnchmn_(Dungeon) 17:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Simpsons is owned by FOX, which is affiliated with Disney. So is it for sure, that it's the Simpsons? -142.46.140.149 00:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

• FOX isn't affiliated with Disney, ABC is, but that's still not NBC-Universal. Phydend 00:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

• I'm confused. If FOX isn't affiliated with Disney then why is the Star Wars ride at MGM Studios? Isn't Stars Wars a FOX movie? -Not Actually Vladimir Lenin 01:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The rights to Star Wars are owned by Lucasfilm Ltd, which is an independent production house. The trilogy was distributed by 20th Century Fox, but that does not confer ownership rights. The rights to Star Tours at MGM were sold to Disney by Lucasfilm, not by Fox. David 17:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

People on youtube compete by putting the same exact video up on different accounts so they can get credit for it and change the link here on Wikipedia. I say just remove the link to the youtube video since it is a copyright violation anyway. --blm07 13:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ride Closure

Does anyone know the status on the ride closure? I was just there and the ride was still open, but the ride was scheduled to close a couple months ago. I also herd rumors about contracts falling through. Can anyone verify anything and update the article with the info?

Ride is closed as of March 30, 2007. David 21:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Replacement for California?

What is going to replace the California ride? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill Cousert (talk • contribs) 04:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons Ride, which is also replacing the Florida Atrraction.--Snowman Guy (talk) 01:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article Cleanup Co-Ordination Point

To be honest, I don't see any of the points mentioned in the header as being particularly applicable. It does need to be organized better, and it needs references. Possible reliable sources might be souvenir materials from the parks and tv shows (e.g. from Travel Channel) that included the ride. I don't think I have anything offhand, unfortunately. There used to be an official website with little video clips, but that was years ago. Karen | Talk | contribs 03:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

the external links an be cleaned up. there are too many and appear to be person sites Napnet 05:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Hi! I had a go at trying to tidy things up on the article. I had a bit of a play around, not so sure about the ride logo up in the middle of nowhere - too much white space...Anyway, hope I made a start. Still loads to add, the plot of the ride could be expanded, and maybe add more to what props etc are in the line. I'll leave the cleanup tag on for now. Hope its ok. Nouse4aname 13:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup done?

I overhauled the article and removed the cleanup tag. Could someone check my work? David 01:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Since I haven't heard any negative comments, I assume the {{cleanup}} tag removal is okay. I'm leaving it on my watchlist, though - if someone disagrees with my assessment, leave a message here or on my talk page. Thanks! =David^(talk)_(contribs) 02:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blatant untruth? (see version history)

I wouldn't say "blatent," or even "blatant". It would be a completely plausible explanation, if it were true - But you're right, it is impossible. He wasn't even diagnosed until the year the ride opened; he didn't reveal it to the public until seven years later.

Please don't call misinformation "blatant untruth."

David 21:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Delorean on Display

One part says that the car was moved to near the Horror Make up but the link to the photo says it's completely gone. Which is it? Can somebody confirm? If I had known it was still at the park I would have confirmed it myself. 74.229.215.99 12:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing one "goof"

I removed the goof about the time at the clocktower not being frozen at 10:04. In the ride; you travel to Oct. 26, 2015 at 03:44 AM. The clock is last seen at the movie around 5 PM in Oct. 21, 2015 after Griff's gang crashes into it. No one knows of the events that happen between that week. Most likely after the Clocktower was wrecked and needed repairs; the clock was fixed too. Or the 'Save the Clocktower' fund might have toppled over in that week. Damian001 13:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Internal inconsistency - reason for Hollywood construction

The History section claims that construction of the west copy was due to the success of the east version, while in the Trivia section it is claimed that production was started simultaneously but there were problems with the Hollywood version that took 2 years to resolve. Which is it? Please correct the erroneous passage.--Ktims (talk) 08:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The reliability of reference 7

Reference number 7 refers to Jim Hill mEdia a non-reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeepcomanche1 (talk • contribs) 05:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)