Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WVQZ

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[edit] WVQZ

The result was Delete (non-admin closure), unanimous delete based on lack of evidence of existence and suspected hoax. Rtphokie (talk) 16:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Not too keen on non-admins closing discussions as delete (see WP:DELPRO#NAC), but I endorse the call here. --jonny-mt 05:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

WVQZ (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Delete. Non-notable radio station. Is written like an ad at times (its written in the first person). Obvious WP:COI at hand here as well, as the main contributer is "Hot103" which is also the name of the company. Its only source so far is their MySpace. Speedy was declined, and the creator removed the PROD, so I'm nominating it here. CyberGhostface (talk) 12:14, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. I changed the first-person usage to third-person. I would normally say that this is an automatic keep because all licenced radio and television stations that originate their own programming are notable, but the station isn't listed at the Federal Communications Commission database or in some other databases of radio stations, perhaps because it only started broadcasting earlier this month. So there's a chance that this is a hoax. If the station's existence can be verified, though, I will change my !vote to keep. --Eastmain (talk) 12:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep For a hoax, it's pretty elaborate. However, the database indicates that there is no 105.3 FM broadcasting in the Greensboro/Winston-Salem area. I guess the "15 watts" should have been a clue. True, as a general rule, FCC-licensed radio stations are considered to be inherently notable under Wikipedia's guidelines. But as others have pointed out, this isn't an FCC-licensed radio station. Mandsford (talk) 12:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 13:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 13:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete I'm with Eastmain- FCC licensed stations are inherently notable, but this one isn't showing up in an FCC FM query, making me think it's a hoax. The station's myspace points out that the call letters changed slightly with a station move (notice in the article the lead and article title don't match), but neither the old or new callsign shows up as licensed. As the nom pointed out, pretty blatantly created by someone looking to promote this. I'd say keep if the station's existence can be confirmed, but this looks like a hoax. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 13:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete without prejudice It is possible that that the FCC has not updated their db (it can take a bit) but I can't find any record of the company, station, anything related to this other than a photobucket account with logos and stuff. Methinks it is a hoax spryde | talk 13:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: You would also think that a new radio station would be significant enough to receive some coverage, any coverage, in the local press. This station is allegedly based in the same county as Greensboro, and the Greensboro News-Record has no record of this station [1].  RGTraynor  13:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Smells like a hoax to me. No FCC record for this callsign, low power or otherwise. Website is a "make your own website online" which is a bit suspect as well.--Rtphokie (talk) 14:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Hold for a period of ten days in order to give the FCC and/or Radio-Locator databases time to be updated. As an LPFM, there may be a delay in adding these call letters to the databases. I would say that if a search of both databases on 5/9 does not show these call letters, then delete. Best regards, --InDeBiz1 (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I see no reason to wait beyond the normal AFD period. The original author has been blocked indefinitely based on creation of this article. All signs point to this being a hoax.--Rtphokie (talk) 19:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

• Hold after lots of cleanup, schedule removal, logo addition, and the usual polish I'm not convinced that this is a real radio station. (Protests that "we're a real radio station!" on their MySpace page, notwithstanding.) I can find no record of WVZQ or WVQZ, the station history laid out on the MySpace page makes no sense, and I'm leaning towards "hoax" but am willing to let it ride out a few days to see if the FCC does add it as an LPFM (but I'm not betting on it). Per InDeBiz1, if it's not there by May 9 then delete as hoax. - Dravecky (talk) 18:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as hoax, after more research appears not to exist as a licensed station. - Dravecky (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment One hoaxy thing I noticed earlier is that they supposedly moved dial positions, changing their call letters in the process, but the old letters don't register either. Is it really plausible that the station moved when it was so new that the FCC had yet to update the database? JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 18:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• FYI From the maintainer of that database:

Each day, at about 6 AM.  A change in CDBS shows up the next day.
Dale Bickel  dale.bickel@fcc.gov

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:50 PM
To: Dale Bickel
Subject: FCC DB question
How often is the database available at
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html updated?  How long would it take
for a newly licensed station or callsign change to show up there?

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