Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Supporting character chronology

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 04:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Supporting character chronology

Supporting character chronology (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This just seems to be a really pointless partial chronology of Batman and Superman supporting characters. ~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 01:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or merge into Batman/Superman lists Savant45 02:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• Merge into Superman articles. Delete There's no useful information here that isn't already in the Batman and Superman articles. The article itself has a vague name. According to WP:FICTION minor supporting characters should be included in the main article on a notable work of fiction. Tarinth 05:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete for redundancy and trivia as above. Clicking on the links for each individual character shows that creator and first appearance of each is prominently displayed on their respective article infoboxes. So lacking useful research data, this article suffers from the intrinsic POV issue of "what supporting chars and why are these important instead of others?" not to mention that the whole topic smacks of an indiscriminate collection of information anyway. -Markeer 13:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• Expand and move unless there is another list out there that choronologically compares sidekicks, i think we should keep this. This list only suffers from intrinsic POV because the author did not follow WP:LIST guidlines in being more specific with the title and beginning with a lead that stated exactly what the scope of the list would entail. It could be solved simply by writing a lead section and moving the article to a more descriptive title. Also, it doesn't seem any of you scanned more than just the first few entries, Spider-Man is listed as well, I think the orginal editor just contributed his own knowledge, not intentionally leaving superheroes out. Other than the points stated above, this meets the requirements at WP:LIST and there is no other article (that i'm aware of) that lists all major supporting characters chronologically. How about List of major supporting characters (comic)? With an approriate lead describing what the title means by "major" the scope can be defined enough to justify keeping out Man in hat #3 and also describe a little about what a supporting character is. -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 17:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• Expand and move -- per above cogent points. // FrankB 22:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
  • apparantly cogency only gets u so far ;) -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 05:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Quarl ^(talk) 01:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per Tarinth and Markeer. TJ Spyke 03:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• Strong delete as cruft. What's the purpose of merging Batman and Superman universes? Why not Fallout and Star Trek? MaxSem 14:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Batman and Superman are both part of the DC universe, so it makes sense to handle them in one place, versus Fallout and Star Trek which are entirely unrelated. In looking at DC universe I notice that there doesn't appear to be a "list of DC universe characters" article (at least one I can see)--something like that would be a good article. Tarinth 15:20, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
    • List of DC Comics characters Uncle G 16:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
      • well since the above list already has several sublists, why not moving the DC related stuff to List of supporting DC comics characters and the Marvel stuff to List of supporting Marvel comics characters?

• Delete, almost completely redundant and original research (regarding, e.g. creators -- suggestive of legal/moral artistic rights). --Dhartung | Talk 21:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • what this suggests to you is purely subjective, even though i realize the comic industry has an ugly history of creative rights, the person who came up with a character is not usually called into question. If it is, then that can be noted within the list. This is no more redundant than creating a list by aspect A and a list by aspect B, which is not against any wiki guideline or policy and does indeed help in navigation. -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 05:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, useless listcruft. Fram 13:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.