Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super mario land 4

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete due to lack of reliable sources. — TKD::Talk 12:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Super mario land 4

Super mario land 4 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Alleged Game Boy game but a bit short on refs. Hoax or what? -- RHaworth 07:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete, hoax. No box-art, no references, nothing on google, unconvincing description.--Nydas(Talk) 08:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Nydas. ~ | twsx | talkcont | 10:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - one of the comments under one of the YouTube videos states that this is a user hack of a Shin Chan game, and indeed the gameplay simply does not look like a Super Mario game. Also, no one has ever heard of it. MGlosenger 03:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Davidzx's Response in defence for the Article:

  • Box art and references have been updated, Also google links to this game have been provided in the external links sections.
  • Box art provided by a reconfiguration of rom maping into a whole title page image.
  • Reviews to the Game have been added as well as a visionary source towards this game.
  • More images uploaded.
  • Descriptions should be update shortly to suite proffesional viewer needs.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidzx (talk • contribs) 14:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - Unverifiable, this looks like a WP:HOAX to me. /Blaxthos 14:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Update - I found this link which also claims to be "Super Mario Land 4", which appears to be a homebrew (read: unofficial) release for the TI-83/TI-84 models of scientific calculators by Texas Instruments. If anything, this just adds to the confusion. Given the difficulty in verifying the content of this article, I'm not willing to change my delete !vote. /Blaxthos 15:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Neutral - I'd usually mark this as a delete pretty easily, but the YouTube video makes me wonder if it could actually be a really game with a lousy article. If the game exists, perhaps the article only needs clean-up? TheInfinityZero 15:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Davidzx's Response: Definitly a cleanup is in order. A complete spellcheck, vocabulary fix, And more info will be update to ensure the success of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidzx (talk • contribs) 15:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Davidzx's Response: thx to Blaxthos, More info has been provided. The data on the story should change now and re edited. Also: All info, Data, images, necessary information, spell checks, Tests are in order. The last Deletes that stated uneccessary information and declare that this article is a hoax are invalid due to the fact that all possible information has been included with all the available references and information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidzx (talk • contribs) 16:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Verification seems to be spotty at best, and the article is a mess. Could be saved, but it would take major work. Realkyhick 17:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment The title screenshot looks like a alteration of the Mario 64 box, with an identical font and posture for Mario. It doesn't say 'Super Mario Land 4', just 'Super Mario 4'. The Tiscalc link is for a different Super Mario Land 4, a homebrew project. With the YouTube videos, my money's on another bit of homebrew. One of the comments says it's a hack of another game, with mario sprites ported in, and some of this game's videos explicitly call it a hack [1]. No major gaming website has *any* information on this supposed game. For example, Gamespot's list of Mario games [2] has obscure curios like All Night Nippon Super Mario Bros but not this game.--Nydas(Talk) 17:54, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Davidzx's Response: Regardless of all the Deletes. This game exists, Only so much information can be obtained. Regardless of all the objections this game exists proving that this article is not a hoax. Information Regarding to claiming this game is a hoax is invalid. No other article has been created for this game which makes an empty spot for writing this article. All information will be re edited and cleaned up to viewer preference soon but please be patient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidzx (talk • contribs) 18:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment A search of video game titles on Gamefaqs yields nothing. shoy 20:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. You said it best yourself, "No Major site whatsoever has the data available for this game", and therefore, this article fails WP:N requirements. WP:ITEXISTS isn't a reason to keep an article. shoy 23:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Response: No Major site whatsoever has the data available for this game. Youtube and DGemu have the only data necessary for this game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidzx (talk • contribs) 22:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Response: no major site has any info towards this article, But that doesnt meen no site whatsoever has any info. The info provided is under references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidzx (talk • contribs) 01:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Hold on a sec, I didnt say anyone could edit the article itself. Also the gmae infact does exist. Regardless if it is a pirated version the original is still out there somewhere. But still, This article does have the need to explain this game. Also the references and information I included earlier are the proof. Also no one is to touch them without my concent.(undo) unless a proper reason is included. Comments and reviews towards this game form other sites are part of the information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidzx (talk • contribs) 18:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • You seem a tad confused about how Wikipedia works. First of all, it is not your article. Anyone can edit it without your permission. Second, the references and "explanations" are poorly put together and are not in an encyclopedic style (heres some hints: don't put "more info will be updated soon" and look up what counts as legitimate references and external links, and do you honestly not see whats wrong with putting Roms on the page?). Therefore, I'm removing them until you do it properly. Lastly, this game is not an official Nintendo game and fails notability. I wish some other people would help with this issue. You're letting this guy get away with this garbage. 75.153.231.20 09:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment- try WP:OWN, WP:NOTE, and WP:RS. All are pertinent to the discussion, David. The Evil Spartan 18:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.