Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Springfield's state

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. per WP:SNOW Milk’s Favorite Cookie (Talk) 20:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Springfield's state

Springfield's state (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Article on a fictional subject with very little real-world notability. Written mostly in in-universe style. Consists almost entirely of original research. Only the final section contains anything that could be called a reliable source. I know some people hate the word, but this article is just pure fancruft. Terraxos (talk) 18:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC) (See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Capital City (The Simpsons), recently deleted for a similar reason. Terraxos (talk) 18:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC))

  • I'll come to what I think should be done to the article in a moment, but there's a GFDL issue I'd like to bring up. Some of the content in the Creation section of the Springfield article was merged in from Springfield's state (original content and merge). As this has occurred, the article should remain as a redirect with its history intact if it is deleted right? Anyway, on to the discussion. As most of the real world info is already in the Springfield article, I'll say merge any important plot details into at most, one section in Springfield (The Simpsons) and redirect. I've noticed that Scorpian0422 has started cleanup. Judging by his normal high quality edits I'm going to wait before making my suggestion for the article. Bill (talk|contribs) 18:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
After Scorpion0422's expansion of the real world aspect with more sources, Keep. Bill (talk|contribs) 23:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep While Capital City did deserve to be deleted, Springfield's state is in important and much talked about aspect of the show and I could easily dig up more articles that speculate about which one it is, which proves its notability per WP:FICT. -- Scorpion0422 19:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Enough coverage is given in WP:RS/WP:V secondary sources in the article's current state to demonstrate notability, and as per Scorpion0422 (talk · contribs) I also feel that a significant amount of other sources could very easily be found as well. Cirt (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep to consider merging with Springfield (The Simpsons). Per the existance of the last section, straight-out deletion would hurt more than it would help. A normal merge proposal would have been better. – sgeureka t•c 20:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge to Springfield (The Simpsons). While there are reliable sources that discuss it, the topic is not really something that lends itself to article-length treatment without generous dollops of original research and synthesis. The obvious point is that it was not intended to be any specific Springfield and so there is contradictory information in various episodes, and a number of actual Springfields have used this to claim the TV Springfield. That's, like, a paragraph or two. --Dhartung | Talk 20:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Update I have changed the location section so that it now is quite different from the one at Springfield (The Simpsons). There are several more sources (including two books) and every statement is sourced. -- Scorpion0422 20:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - Per all above.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 21:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep important, relevant, etc. Rhino131 (talk) 00:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per Scorpion0422. Captain Infinity (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge with Springfield (The Simpsons), per Dhartung. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 06:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per most everyone. Lots of real world relevance to go around. JuJube (talk) 08:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge with Springfield (The Simpsons) - there's a fair amount of crossover information between the two articles. Once that is removed from a state article, you're left with a few paragraphs that can easily be put in the city article in a wider location context. Politics - represented by Joe Quimby, under the state governer whoever and senator Bob Arnold. Located in Springfield County, alongside Spittle County etc. HornetMike (talk) 15:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge per HornetMike. Stifle (talk) 20:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.