Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sofa King

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect keep arguments are not very convincing, but I think this is a useful redirect at least. W.marsh 22:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sofa King

Sofa King (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) - (View log)

A non-notable "gag name". Nonpareility 23:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Delete: this appears to be a neologism that has not caught on. The guideline states "New terms don't belong in Wikipedia unless there are reliable sources about the term", and there seems to be no reliable sources about this phenomenon; the article qualifies for original research in this regard. For example,

Phrases like these were obviously intended to sound like "so fucking great" and "so fucking low"

is an analysis of the phenomenon that has no reputable source (WP:NOR). Splitting any of the controversies mentioned in this article into separate articles would be would be non-notable recentism.
  • No vote. I created the page because it seemed to be "taking off" at the time. I'll shed no tears if it is deleted, tho. bd2412 T 02:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
    • (although I would dispute the need for a source for the fact that "sofa king" sounds like "so fucking" - that the FCC investigated a DJ over it is proof enough of that). bd2412 T 02:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
      Gotcha. it just seemed like conclusion-jumping to me. GracenotesT § 02:21, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NEO and WP:V. It also was used on an episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force as "I am Sofa King wee Todd Ed." Still, we need verifiable secondary sources to keep this article, and all we have are primary ones of people using the neologism. -- Kesh 03:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - This article provides no verifiable sources to establish notability. It's interesting though; if a source that discussed the use of the term was provided, I'd cut it some slack. Shaundakulbara 04:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
  • You say very funny thing. Delete, perhaps a redirect to the episode in question if an article exists. JuJube 06:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. It's not funny, but I swear, this "joke" has been around a lot longer than 2000. If it's being used by Mancow and ATHF, isn't that evidence of notability right there? --UsaSatsui 15:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
    No, it isn't. "Was used once by a TV/radio show" isn't a notability criteria.--Nonpareility 18:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
    Not by itself, maybe, but being used by a TV show, a song, and being a catchphrase of sorts for a morning radio personality should be enough. --UsaSatsui 21:23, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Not a great joke, but when has that mattered?--Czar Yah 02:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
    It never mattered, and that's why the nominator didn't mention its funniness as a factor in keeping/deleting it. GracenotesT § 02:21, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - putting "sofa king" in quotes still gets me 339,000 google hits (not in quotes is over a million but they're both common words so that's less meaningful). It's the name of more than one band, a couple of sportsbars, included in the domain of several websites, it's in the urban dictionary and several other dictionaries of slang. You're not going to find academic work or newspaper articles discussing it because of the link to profanity, which those sorts of mediums tend to shy away from (it's awkward to write an article full of asterisks and euphemisims) but it's pretty clear to me that this term has soaked into popular culture pretty thoroughly. !!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plymouths (talk • contribs) 11:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC). oops. that was a typo - put exclamation points instead of tildes - they're right next to each other. Plymouths 11:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
    I'm not disputing the notability of Sofa King (song) or any of the bands, but of the phrase itself. "No doubt" is a term often used in popular culture but doesn't get its own article just because there's also a band named that. Wikipedia is not a slang dictionary, and this article is not somehow exempt from notability guidelines because it involves the word "fuck".--Nonpareility 18:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. I could see the FCC incident merged into Mancow_Muller#Incidents, but I can't find enough discussion of the phrase itself (as opposed to primary uses of the phrase) to justify a stand-alone article. Merge and delete. Gimmetrow 06:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.