Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schafer House

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all (non admin)({{db-afd}}) Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 11:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schafer House

Schafer House (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

I am also nominating the following related pages:

Frances Gardner House (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Francis Gardner Hall (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

All are contested prod articles on accomodation at University College London. None offers any claim to notability beyond being something along the lines of 'largest catered hall at UCL'. Delete unless anyone can provide references showing their notability outside of the ivory towers of UCL. Nuttah68 06:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Compress and Merge to the UCL article. This information is interesting to prospective students, which in my opinion is a good measure of why we need the information in Wikipedia. But it does not justify a separate article. -Arch dude 16:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment. I challenged the prods as they seemed to be based on the assertation that halls of residence aren't inherently notable. I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a valid reason but there are several existing categories such as Category:University_and_college_residential_buildings. I've made a note on WikiProject Universities. Paulbrock 17:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Noting that your reason is not valid does not in some way make it more valid or worthy of consideration. And I'm pretty sure that nothing exists that is 'inherently notable'. Things are notable if they meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Dlabtot 21:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Some halls of residence can possibly be notable. But I do not think many of them would be. It is conceivable that an article might eventually be split off from the University College articles for their halls of residence in general if there are enough of them and enough sources. Of the articles in the category, some seem to be such combination articles. And some of the others are notable for their historic status or as declared national monuments. And probably some should be deleted. DGG (talk) 19:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to hypothetical Residences at University College London. As DGG already suggests, individual residences within a university, just like departments and degrees and student clubs, generally do not meet notability requirements for organizations and these articles furthermore make no assertion of importance. However, I do not support deletion because the content should be included within wikipedia to ensure comprehensive coverage of a topic, but it does not warrant its own article. Madcoverboy 21:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete/Merge Delete or merge into the main university article. There is nothing notable about any of the halls/houses. KnightLago 22:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
• Merge. After listening to the arguments, I'd say either merge to a residences article, as per Madcoverboy, or to the main UCL article. Paulbrock 13:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable outside the context of being one of the university's residence hall. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
• Merge these dormatory articles into one as per DGG's and Madcoverboy's reasoning. I don't have an opinion on whether or not redirects ought to remain or whether the articles should be just deleted, but I think it depends on (1) whether we can conceive of some reader searching for Schafer House or (2) whether there's some reasonable possibility that new information will one day come forth that a single dormatory will in fact be notable. Noroton 20:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - does not meet notability criteria. Also, the article also fails to assert that the subject of the article is important or significant. Dlabtot 21:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• mergeGiven the setup of the UL, I'm sure they have an interesting residence system, should be placed there. Mbisanz 07:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.