Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marin Independant Journal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 02:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marin Independant Journal

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A extremely short stub that talks about a very non notable topic. Chris! _{my talk} 22:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

KeepThere are articles about every newspaper, another small newspaper would be the Point Reyes Light which is much smaller than the Marin Independant Journal (MIJ). I'll try and expand it however. Newspapers are notable though, wikipedia has room for this especially if there is room for an article for every single episode of the Simpsons or a Angel or even less notable shows.Cholga^talK! 23:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: If kept, please move to the correct speeling. Corvus cornix 23:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete An obvious non notable page. Also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a good argument. Chris! _{my talk} 23:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect to ANG Newspapers if nothing turns up; it's where the correct spelling redirects and independant for independent seems a plausible enough typo. It's a real paper, so not a hoax. Unlike the Point Reyes Light above, as near as I can tell MIJ has won no Pulitzer prizes so notability is not based solely on size - like actors winning oscars for their 1 and only role are notable where the more voluminous work product of a perennial bit part player may give no notability. Carlossuarez46 23:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect: Oh, the correct spelling is actually a redirect. Thanks for pointing that out. So, my position now changed from delete to redirect.Chris! _{my talk} 00:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Seems notable enough. George Bush wrote an apology to the paper for calling John Walker Lindh a "misguided Marin county hot-tubber", and the staff has won several AP awards. Zagalejo^^^ 02:12, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment May I ask you how this link related to the Marin Independent Journal? Perhaps I miss that when I read the link, but pretty sure I didn't. Chris! _{my talk} 04:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
    • This first link, you mean? Read on past the advertisement. A person from the newspaper even appeared on The Today Show to talk about the incident, and the transcript is available at Lexis-Nexis. ("Jackie Kerwin of the Marin County Independent Journal discusses readers' comments regarding former President Bush's remarks regarding hot tubs and John Walker Lindh". NBC News Transcripts, February 28, 2002 Thursday, 962 words).
    • Although I think the newspaper is notable even without all that, as a circulation of 35,000 is pretty respectable. Zagalejo^^^ 06:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
      • I see it. Thanks. Chris! _{my talk} 00:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Meets WP criteria for notable topic, therefore let us keep it. SaltyBoatr 18:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Zagalejo's information.--SarekOfVulcan 14:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - I have expanded the article with the above sources. Notability has been established. Fosnez 06:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. MIJ is a notable paper and it seems enough sources have been added as well. Benjiboi 10:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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