Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Shelton

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge and redirect to Carl Monson. As the merge has already happened and there are no outright objections to a redirect then lets stay within GFDL. (non-admin close) RMHED (talk) 23:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Laura Shelton

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Recently deceased obscure former starlet who guest appeared in a few TV shows in the early 1960s. Doesn't clear WP:BIO, and there don't appear to be any reliable sources about the subject; none appear in the article save for her IMDB entry, in any event. Wikipedia is not a memorial.  RGTraynor  12:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

The intention was not to memorialize Laura Shelton, but to meet interest in her since her death last week and recent postings of her television work on YouTube. I agree with you that there still needs to be more research, but she had a larger impact on the early NoHo movement with her husband Carl Monson (known more now for his sexploitation films of the 1970s) and the Curtain Call Theatre than I have been able to articulate. Their Theatre was one of the first in what is now the Hollywood Theatre District. My hope is that through Wikipedia some of the more interesting aspects of that era and movement of west coast theatre will be revealed as people contribute to the article. This is an actress who was a large part of the Pasadena Playhouse phenomenon along side Gene Hackman and Dustin Hoffman and part of the end of the studio system. She was one of the last "Hollywood Debutantes" selected by the industry and presented at the Hollywood Debutant Ball by Joan Crawford and Bob Hope. Don’t let my novice approach kill an article that could yield some wonderful information. Utepsong (talk) 15:11, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Merge a summary to Carl Monson (which needs work). Her husband seems somewhat more notable based on the IMDB entry.—RJH (talk) 16:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: Yep, I glanced at the Monson article, but he looked to be just notable enough, so I didn't file on that one.  RGTraynor  16:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: How do you do all of that?Utepsong (talk) 19:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Reply: How do we gauge notability? Myself, I start with a Google search, and follow up on links. If I find reliable sources per WP:RS, that's all she wrote. Beyond that, there are various policies and guidelines that explain the various standards involved. Wikipedia core policies are listed under WP:FIVE, and a few of the key policies we use here are WP:V (all articles must be sourced through reliable, independent, indepth sources), WP:BIO (the criteria used as gauges of notability) and WP:RS (explanations of what constitutes reliable sources and how they're applied). I highly recommend giving those links a look see. Good luck.  RGTraynor  19:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, a handful of guest roles on notable TV shows does not translate into notability, and working with notable persons doesn't either. If there are enough sources perhaps an article on the Curtain Call Theater would be warranted, but read WP:ORG first. --Dhartung | Talk 19:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: How do you merge? Maybe this should be a subarticle to Carl Monson. Utepsong (talk) 13:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Reply: It's relatively easy. First off, you take all the relevant info and put it in a subsection in the Monson article; something starting off like "Monson's wife was Laura Shelton, an actress who appeared in guest appearances in several TV shows of the early 1960s. She was a student at the Pasadena Playhouse school of theater, where she ..." Etc. Then you replace Shelton's article with #REDIRECT [[Carl Monson]] and use a note in the edit summary along the lines of "Redirecting to Carl Monson article."  RGTraynor  13:25, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Reply: RGTraynor thanks for being so helpful. Can you take a look at Carl Monson and see if that looks okay? I also don't know how to include images with an article. Thanks again, Utepsong (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, jonny-mt 01:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - This is a procedural relisting due to an incorrect non-admin close. Please add your comments below. --jonny-mt 01:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment I would prefer deletion without redirection as I don't see any notability whatsoever, but redirects are cheap, so I have no strong objections to one. It looks like a merge has taken place, so a redirect would be required to preserve authorship history under the GFDL. --Dhartung | Talk 06:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.