Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin G. Summers

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The result was Delete ---- Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin G. Summers

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Does not indicate qualification under Wikipedia:Bio#Creative professionals -- Jeandré, 2008-04-07t18:38z 18:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC), -- Jeandré, 2008-04-07t18:41z

Sorry, I didn't realize that I had to cite the reference right in the article. This is my first time. Kevin G. Summers' works have been cited in several original works (I've added the citations to the article), he was nominated for a Nebula Award, the highest honor for science fiction writers, he's gone beyond just writing Star Trek, and his name and one of his stories came up recently in the debate over whether or not a fan-produced TV series should be nominated for a Nebula Award (http://www.trekunited.com/news/content/view/869/81/) I think he is notable enough for inclusion because of these things. --User:Ahab4ever

Notability requirements for authors from Wikipedia:Bio#Creative professionals:

• " The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors.
• The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
• The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
• The person's work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums, or had works in many significant libraries.

Please cite a source in the article that meets one or more of the above. -- Jeandré, 2008-04-07t20:06z

I can cite several places where his Star Trek stories have been referenced online, such as reviews on Amazon and some other websites, as well as some Star Trek chronologies, but I don't see this information in any of the other listings on Strange New World winners (or anybody else) so I'm not sure how I would include it. I know he's been in at least one Star Trek magazine (an interview), but that is not on the web. After reviewing some other pages, I'm thinking maybe this should be a Star Trek stub. Sorry I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do this. --User:Ahab4ever

• Delete, while he has been in Star Trek anthologies, there is no evidence any of his works satisfy WP:BK. --Dhartung | Talk 22:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. It just seemed like there are several other Star Trek authors of approximately the same level. I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong here, I thought I was just making an article similar to others that are on the site. I'm not going to spend any more time on this one, so go ahead and pull the plug if you feel that's the right thing to do. --User:Ahab4ever —Preceding comment was added at 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Not your fault Ahab, there are thousands of articles on Wikipedia that aren't notable enough to qualify. The encyclopedists want reliable third party sources to indicate encyclopedic notability, and the inclusionists want articles on almost everyone and everything. -- Jeandré, 2008-04-08t13:18z

Thanks. Go ahead and take the page down, or is that something I should do? --User:Ahab4ever

It'll be deleted in about 2 days. You may want to edit his memory-alpha page which doesn't have all the info this one does. -- Jeandré, 2008-04-10t12:02z

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 00:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - and jsut to be clear, he was not nominated for a Nebula. He was on the ballots for nomination which is a step away. -- Whpq (talk) 18:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.