Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harold P. Warren

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Blueboy96 06:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harold P. Warren

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Harold P. Warren is not notable enough to have his own biographical article, as he is only known for his creation of the film, "Manos" The Hands of Fate. This article is not so much a biography of Warren's life, but rather only mentions his contributions to the film. All the information in this article is already stated in the film's article, therefore this article can be considered redundant. –Dream out loud (talk) 00:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• Merge/Redirect to "Manos" The Hands of Fate. The film is a FA, and definitely notable; however, its writer has done virtually bupkis outside of the film's scope. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 00:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per below. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of reliable sources here, and he's apparently done almost nothing outside of his involvement in this film. However, his involvement in a very notable film would likely make him worthy enough of an article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 01:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep worst movie claim seems to be well-documented making him notable for writing, directing, and producing it. JJL (talk) 00:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Director, producer, and writer of a well-known, notable film.--TBC!?! 01:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Under normal circumstances I'd call directing a single low-budget film with a limited theatrical release a pretty weak claim of notability. But "Manos" is far from normal circumstances. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per above. If Manos was an obscure flop, then I would agree with the nominator, but Manos was no ordinary flop. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 05:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC).
• Merge/Redirect per nom. I know that WP:BLP doens't apply (as he died) but the header "he is best remembered for writing, directing, and producing the the worst films of all time" jumped out on me, and due to basic fairness and decency such an article shouldn't go. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• I don't get it. Are you saying he is NOT best remembered for Manos? Or that Manos is not objectively describable as "one of the worst films of all time" (a judgement that isn't ours, but of our sources)? See the lead for Ed Wood. --Dhartung | Talk 06:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Neither. I'm saying such an intro is inhumane, unjust, etc...That's all I'm saying. I know nothing about him or the film. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. It's possible that some of the stuff in the Manos article could be trimmed. Is this really all there is to say about him? Seems I remember reading more details of his life in some schlockfest issue of Fangoria or whatnot. --Dhartung | Talk 06:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - Involvement in Manos meets notability. matt91486 (talk) 09:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 11:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• Manos is definitely notable film. But I don't think that Warren, himself, is notable at all. Aside from his creation of Manos, nothing else is really known about him aside from the fact that he was a fertilizer salesman. I think a redirect to the Manos article would be the next best thing to a deletion of this article. –Dream out loud (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. Certainly looks notable enough to me, I'm not sure why we'd want to get rid of this one. RFerreira (talk) 19:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per JJL and Dhartung The Dominator (talk) 21:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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