Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hardline (subculture)

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The result was Keep and cleanup. Marked for cleanup. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hardline (subculture)

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Article possibly a non-notable subject, seems to be wholey original research and has been marked unsourced for some time. neonwhite user page talk 15:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete This is completely original research. Let's not host someone's school thesis.  ;-) Blaxthos ( t / c ) 22:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. Hardline was a notable subsection of straightedge, and is fairly well defined. There's a reasonable amount of coverage in reliable sources, which I'll add when I have the time this weekend. There's little, if anything, in the article that can't be backed up with reliable sources. Mostlyharmless (talk) 00:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Tthe sources will need to be provided here. Promises are not good enough for an afd. --neonwhite user page talk 00:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not asking anyone to take my word for it. If there are insufficient refs to RS at the end of the debate, it gets deleted. Mostlyharmless (talk) 01:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It turns out I couldn't keep my promise to add refs - I'm out of time. Mostlyharmless (talk) 22:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep Sources need sorting out (I'll see if I can find some) but as a subculture its notable alright. IMO it doesn't read like "someone's school project" - its written rather too well for that - even if articles on contemporary youth culture (especially of the US-originated floppy-fringe personal politics class) may prima facie appear so to some (too often me, I confess, but not this time. I'm sure I read something about this in one of the Sunday broadsheets). Plutonium27 (talk) 17:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep As written, the article needs a ton of work and sourcing, but the phenomenon described is a real one, and is notable. Yilloslime (t) 20:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Not knowing the procedure, I posted my thoughts on the discussion page. To reiterate, I came across this article during some research of my own, and I found it useful and informative, and it linked in with other stuff about straight edge which I found by googling. Gwaka Lumpa (talk) 15:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.