Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Green Rewards

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mr.Z-man 01:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Green Rewards

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The subject is a planned, but not yet operational loyalty program. Refs and article generated by subject's marketing consultant. May be notable in future, but can't be considered notable until program launches and gains significant membership. Murtoa (talk) 12:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. —Murtoa (talk) 06:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. —Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Week delete (unless / until sourced). Not-yet-launched businesses are not inherently non-notable or a WP:CRYSTAL issue; if they're important enough then the idea, preparation, and launch plans themselves may be notable whether or not the company ever gets off the ground. However, in this case I just don't see notability. There are indeed a number of mentions in reliable sources but they are minor references in minor sources, e.g. an interview in a green publication so informal that they refer to the CEO by his first name. There's just not enough substance there to say it's a notable program...people love to hear about this kind of company, so if it ever does become notable I'm sure we'll see lots of press and notability will be clear. If that happens, or if the sources are out there and I just missed them, it's a keeper. Wikidemo (talk) 14:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak delete. Reads more like an advert than anything else, and the sources provided do not suggest that the proposed program is notable. It could be notable -- just not yet. However, having said that, I disagree with the nominator's assertion that a product or service can't be notable until it has launched. That is just plain incorrect. On that point, I concur with Wikidemo. iPhone is a classic example of a product that was certainly notable (and subject to much hype and speculation, as well as its own Wikipedia article) long before Apple admitted that it planned to offer such a device or anyone knew what it would look like. However, Green Rewards are not the iPhone, and this product does not appear to be notable. Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:56, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I take your point about launch not being a prerequisite for notability. The inherent difficulty in launching and sustaining these types of coalition loyalty programs was driving my comments rather than applying more generally. Murtoa (talk) 12:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete This program does not exist outside a website, logo and article placements by employees...all former marketing people. They do want your credit card in order to save the world from more plastic reward cards. Flowanda | Talk 05:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


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