Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cape Cod Mall
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Jaranda wat's sup 21:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cape Cod Mall
Yet another article on a NN mall, probabaly CSD criteria, but want some input. No sources other than simon.com and the barber shop blog, fails WP:V. Rackabello 06:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing notable about this mallGorkymalorki 06:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep: The only reason being a notable deletion case involving many mall articles a while back. The decision came back to keep the articles, even small stubs like Lakeforest Mall. This, in my opinion, set a precedent for saving real malls. Additionally, a Google search of Cape Cod Mall turned up over 30K results. It's a real mall, though the article itself needs a major rewrite and more sources. -- VegitaU 07:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree, its a mall I go to somewhat frequently, considering I only live about 20 minutes away, and its the only mall accessible without going over the bridge and 30K ghits or not, methinks its fairly run of the mill: it has a Sears, a Macy's, a Best Buy, a Barnes and Noble, a Marshals, and a Hoyts movie theater. It has a food court and a bunch of other stores. No notable events (recieved substantial non-local press coverage) have taken place at the mall to my knowledge. I can think of at least five or six other malls off hand that fit that or a very similar description. Rackabello 07:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- So... you're not disagreeing with me? -- VegitaU 07:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree, its a mall I go to somewhat frequently, considering I only live about 20 minutes away, and its the only mall accessible without going over the bridge and 30K ghits or not, methinks its fairly run of the mill: it has a Sears, a Macy's, a Best Buy, a Barnes and Noble, a Marshals, and a Hoyts movie theater. It has a food court and a bunch of other stores. No notable events (recieved substantial non-local press coverage) have taken place at the mall to my knowledge. I can think of at least five or six other malls off hand that fit that or a very similar description. Rackabello 07:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Delete as per nom Harlowraman 07:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: And the decision I cited above? Why did all those malls get to keep their articles and this one is deleted? -- VegitaU 07:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Reply I believe you may be incorrectly comparing that decision to the legal concept of case-law. Although calling on past AfD discussions may be appropriate to advance your argument, please remember AfD discussions are just that, discussions. Each article is weighed out individually and consensus is formulated on a case by case basis. Rackabello 07:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Reply: True, consensus can change. I'm just arguing my view based on what I've seen in the past. I don't think this article should be deleted. It just needs work and more sources. It looks notable to me. -- VegitaU 07:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Reply I believe you may be incorrectly comparing that decision to the legal concept of case-law. Although calling on past AfD discussions may be appropriate to advance your argument, please remember AfD discussions are just that, discussions. Each article is weighed out individually and consensus is formulated on a case by case basis. Rackabello 07:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Keep as a notable center of commerce with the locality. Would not be opposed to a merge. Burntsauce 17:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep, seems to be a semi-notable mall, just needs work. I'll take some time to work on this article. I've removed the store listings per WP:NOT#DIR. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 19:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Size, scope and history are all consistent with notability. Claims are there, but additional sources should be added and the article expanded. Alansohn 22:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. I added a couple of sources -- there's not a whole lot out there, but I did what I could. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 22:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Delete There is a lack of sources that assert this projects importance. Failing that criteria; a mall is a mall and not notable.--Stormbay 23:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Keep as notable within the area--the only enclosed mall on the Cape. DGG (talk) 00:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per Burntsauce.--JForget 00:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, no evidence of any sources to confirm or assert notability. --ForbiddenWord 02:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, Agreed this article should be edited so that it fits better in an encyclopedia format, and several more sources exist and should be noted (such as news, which was cited - as this is one of the only TWO malls that incorporated a second Macy's store when Federated took over May's Filene's stores). It is also the only major enclosed shopping center in the area and has had an effect on the population of the greater vicinity. Hardly trivial. -J 19:51, 01 Aug 2007 (PST)
- Keep, The mall has been around for many years and is notable for the region. I know not all editors like infrastructure-related articles, whether it be highways, railroads, etc. But I feel articles like that are important to commerce and WP:IDONTLIKEIT / WP:IDONTCARE is not a reason to delete the article. Squidfryerchef 05:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
