Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ballbusting

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, but redirect to Cock and ball torture. There is no solid consensus present here endorsing deletion, so when in doubt, don't delete. Anecdotal evidence known to the closer suggest the term is distinct from CBT; however, mindful of the need for verifiable, reliable sources, a redirection there seems the best route at present. The history of ballbusting will be maintained thereby, and may be resurrected at editorial discretion, so long as sources are provided. Xoloz 21:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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This article is entirely unreferenced, and concerns an apparently non-notable sexual activity. John254 20:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• Keep if it's just a matter of notability. It turns out there are about 350K Ghits for "ballbusting," 250K with "fetish" added, and still about 75K when "xxx" is excluded. On the referencing issue, though, I'm having trouble finding RS among all the fetish site hits. --Groggy Dice T | C 02:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment -- Per Wikipedia:Verifiability, "If an article topic has no reliable, third-party sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." John254 03:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. The sexual activity is already covered in Cock and ball torture. I'd go with a simple redirect to that article, but the problem is that the concept is most widely used metaphorically, as, per one definition, "scolding or berating" someone. [1] For example, in a Yahoo! search, even "bust her balls" (obviously a metaphor) has 445 hits. Perhaps send to Wiktionary, which currently has no entry for "ballbusting"? JamesMLane t c 10:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep It is a notable term, and with 350,000 + hits on Google, that certainly emphasises its usage as a common slang word.

It could be redirected to List of sexual slang terms, or expanded further. It's all a case of finding references that are reliable sources - not an easy task, but there probably will be a source somewhere. --sunstar net^talk 10:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, per JamesMLane — entirely covered under Cock and ball torture, so a simple redirect will suffice. A mention that several slang terms for CBT are used metaphorically could be added to that article. / edgarde 18:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Part of my uncertainty is: Does the nonsexual concept of ballbusting merit an article? Arguably, it's strictly Wiktionary material -- but I'm inclined to think that more could be written than just a dicdef. Perhaps it should be just a redirect for now, without prejudice to an eventual article about the broader sense. JamesMLane t c 20:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep or merge to Groin attack. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 04:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Needs Rewrite: article needs to be re-written by someone experienced in this activity. It is an uncommon but significant variant of Cock and ball torture. It has both sexual and non-sexual connotations. There are websites and professionals dedicated to this activity. I googled 'ball busting' and got 250K hits. I will do research on this and post edits in the near future. The current info is more 'hurtful' than 'harmless'. Jerry guru 18:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.