Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bada Bing

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep due to sufficient reliable secondary sources. — TKD::Talk 05:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bada Bing

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This article about a fictional bar in The Sopranos, and the article does not show notability through reliable secondary sources, and functions mostly as a plot summary. I proded this article, it was later redirected to The Sopranos, and the article was then un-redirected, so I am listing here to gain a consensus. Phirazo 03:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep though I don't object to a redirect per se, the bar is in fact notable, both in the fictional work and in real life. In fact, it's a real bar, and the recent finale of the series has lead to a well-noted auction of the furnishings. [1]. [2]. [3]. I'm not sure that a redirect to the name of the real place is advisable, but there's no real question of notability on its own here. FrozenPurpleCube 04:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as per FrozenPurpleCube - Fosnez 07:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, prime example of filmed location having real-world significance. --Dhartung | Talk 08:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete or Redirect. It's a fictional strip club. Note that it has no references -- that's because it's not notable. An article about a building would include the history; who built it, the architecture, and so on. An article about a business would include information about its profits, owners, history, and so on. None of that is available for The Bing because it's fictional. -- Mikeblas 14:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It had no references because nobody has bothered to add any. It happens. However, I added some just for some recent events. Whether or not there are references showing its further details is silly, no particular content is required to make an article on something. In addition, everything you're asking about *is* applicable to the actual club where it is located. Somebody, could, if desired add that information. It wouldn't be unreasonable. FrozenPurpleCube 14:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Above and beyond the club's significance in the show, the club has received worldwide media attention in the past several weeks for its role in the Sopranos. The reliable and verifiable sources provided satisfy the Wikipedia:Notability standard. Alansohn 18:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep due to popularity as catchphrase. Has now entered OED. [4]. Canuckle 21:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment The article is about a fictional bar, not the catchphrase. They are two completely different things. --Phirazo 17:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
    • My apologies for lack of clarity. I thought editors would read the reference provided which clearly states that the series -- including the club -- were responsible for a real-world impact of popularizing the catchphrase to the extent that it was added to Oxford English Dictionary. As this and other sources and claims for notability have been added to the article to answer your sourcing and notability concerns in the nomination, I suggest that it may be appopriate for you as nominator to rescind the nomination. Canuckle 19:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Notability? Almost every episode of one of the most popular shows in history takes place here. This article could definitely use more references and any history that may have been stated on the show. There could also possibly be info about the real strip club used. MrBlondNYC 23:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
• As much as I'm usually inclined to despise in-universe articles which are too often unreferenced plot summaries of insufficient notability, the references of reliable, published secondary sources now included in the article assert sufficient notability. —AldeBaer 01:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.