Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asia Area (LDS Church)

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The result was all merged into Area (LDS Church). The Evil Spartan 14:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asia Area (LDS Church)

Asia Area (LDS Church) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

The world is divided into 29 administrative "areas" by the LDS Church. This article is about one of the 29 areas, and this one does not seem to be in any way notable as compared to the other 28. Rather than having an article for each of the 29 areas, it would probably be more helpful to have one article about the jurisdiction of "area" within the LDS Church. This is the approach that has been taken with the ~350 missions of the LDS Church. Rather than an article for each mission, there is one article at Mission (LDS Church). However, currently no such general article about LDS Church areas exist for these to be merged into. –SESmith 03:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages which are articles about other "areas" in the LDS Church:

Utah Salt Lake City Area (LDS Church) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Utah South Area (LDS Church) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

North America Central Area (LDS Church) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

North America Southwest Area (LDS Church) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

North America West Area (LDS Church) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

• Merge them all into Area (LDS Church). On its own, each article could never grow beyond a stub. Capmango 04:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge them all, but into something such as "Area (Latter-day Saints)" or whatever the proper capitalisation is. It seems like most LDS-related articles, when they have the LDS included in the title, spell it out rather than using the LDS abbreviation. Nyttend 04:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

If it's a topic that only applies to the LDS Church, the correct appellation is -(LDS Church). If it applies to all or most denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement, the appelation is -(Latter Day Saints). I think here you would be suggesting -(LDS Church), since these areas are only used by the LDS Church and not by other Latter Day Saint denominations. -SESmith 04:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Aha, I see, thanks. As a Presbyterian, I'm never sure what things are specific to the largest Latter Day Saint denomination and which things are used by multiple denominations. Nyttend 01:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• Merge all into Area (LDS Church) per nom. --Metropolitan90 05:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge all with no prejudice against against expansion when there is something to say, in additional to the geographic boundaries. There probably is material to be found for good articles. DGG 23:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

There is also the possibility of studying the membership statistics. Also there is the fact that the areas have area presidents, some of whom are notable. For example, it was when John H. Groberg was president of the North America West Area that the first Tongan Speaking stake in the US was organized in that areas boundaries. I think this was more than coincidence considering how connected to Tonga Elder Groberg is.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnpacklambert (talk • contribs) 16:36, 2 July 2007

• Keep and work on a merge. "Area Seventy" appears to be an LDS formal term; Area Seventy says "See Church Administration"; in a hidden block labeled "Additional Information" is a section called "Area Administration" that gives more detail. Area Seventy#Current organization and subsection contains related information. From a quick read it appears that these area's are comparable with RCC's Category:Bishops conferences; I expect each "Area" is very notable, but until more info is added, a merge is appropriate. John Vandenberg 06:50, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

• FYI: Area Seventy is addressed at length at Seventy (Latter Day Saints) –SESmith 07:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

• Very little of the information on the nominated articles is found in the article Seventy (Latter Day Saints), which is already large enough. Why dont these regional chapters of the LDS church merit there own article? John Vandenberg 02:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say the material about Areas is at Seventy (Latter Day Saints). I said the material on Area Seventies is there. An Area Seventy is a position held by a person; an Area is a geographic division. I also never said Area (LDS Church) shouldn't have an article, I just don't see the need for an individual one for each of the 29 areas. You may disagree, of course. –SESmith 06:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 06:50, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge as per DGG. ¿SFGiДnts! ^{¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review!} 01:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Giggy _U^CP 04:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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