Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Croatian sentiment (second nomination)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete as an OR POV fork. I'm not sure why this AFD hasn't been closed in 10 days. --Coredesat 05:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Croatian sentiment

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This article should be deleted along with all other Anti-X articles, for example anti-Hellenism, anti-Macedonian sentiment etc. It is full of WP:OR and cannot get any better. In the Balkans if we are to believe the Wikipedia articles everyone has discriminated against everyone else. And every piece of history is somehow discriminating or cast in a negative light towards some ethnic group. This is ridiculous. We essentially have a load of POV forks that contradict each other. Delete.

Alternatively merge into an article History of ethnic discrimination in the Balkans which would cover the subject in a neutral manner, split on a historical, not ethnic basis. - Francis Tyers · 10:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Note: Other articles in this deletion series:

  • Delete per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Hellenism. Tankred 20:00, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - these articles are all inherently OR.--Aldux 14:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete (per arguments given here. Dahn 14:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete all per WP:SYN. KissL 14:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The phenomenon exists and discussed in reliable sources. If the article is bad, it must be cleaned, not deleted. Mukadderat 16:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and improve. It is documented and describes real facts. These kind of situations occured and there is no real need to delete the article, but to improve it. And per this search. --R O A M A T A A | msg  18:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete all. WP:NOR, WP:POVFORKs. No exceptions = no bitching. NikoSilver 19:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
  • This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I think this article presents real facts. But we must take care with the NPOV. --Mocu 13:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete all; fails WP:SYN. See my further reasoning at the Serbophobia AfD. Duja► 14:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete all. Local incidents hyped by (tabloid) media and individuals covering their own xenophobia or another agenda by pointing fingers at others are not valid enough for an encyclopedia article. You could find individuals in every nation hating some other nation/culture/race/whatever, yet that should be covered enough in general articles about prejudice, racism and such. Unless there is some substantial evidence for anti-whatever sentiment, these types of articles should have no place in Wikipedia.--Svetovid 17:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep and improve The sources are too general-- at least every paragraph ought to be sourced to a general history, preferable one available in English/ I suspect the available academic sources will be too specfiic for what is after all a rather general article. I have an general feeling about subjects like this: I am ready to believe the worst of all the historical groups involved, and therefore see the accusations as confirming what i would expect to happen. (and I am not just referring to the balkans) I therefore tend to think there will be documentation for abuses, while trying to demonstrate that there were no abuses is much harder, and tends to become as statement that there were equal abuses in the opposite direction. DGG 05:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Valid topic. Nearly every nation has its share of being hated or discriminated against. `'юзырь:mikka 16:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, same reasoning as in the other cases. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: original research, collection of unrelated events under common umbrella, part of the attempt to create "anti-{event nation on the planet}-sentiment" collection of articles. The next step, if it is decided to go in this direction, would be creation of "anti-{capital of every country}-sentinent" texts. Pavel Vozenilek 17:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, however, only if all the other "anti-x" articles go as well (except established ones such as anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism).Osli73 07:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep, this is an important topic, and the article is well referenced.AlexanderPar 09:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete for breaching the core principles: WP:NPOV, WP:V and WP:OR. This is not acceptable for such a charged topic. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 11:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, I strongly oppose deletion of "anti-X" articles, they can be kept --Pejman47 19:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Well no, they can't, because they currently breach core policies. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 00:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, as per Svetovid above. Perhaps philosopher Ernst Bloch had an anti-Croatian sentiment, but that doesn't make it "Croatophobia". --George D. Božović 06:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.