Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annihilator (truck)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. --james^(talk) 13:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Annihilator (truck)

This article does not give any reason why this truck is notable. In fact if I had not stumbled upon this article, I would have never even known what the bloody hell a "monster truck" is. Allow me to reproduce the entire article, save for the links and uselss little side box, here: Annihilator is a monster truck that races on the USHRA circuit. Displaced Brit 00:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep I guess. Normally I'd say to merge with Martial Law (truck) [which is its current name] but we don't seem to have such an article at the moment. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Although I hate to think of it as a sport, it could be argued that "monster-trucking," similar to NASCAR, is a sport. This seems to be a truck competing at the highest national level. I would apply the same criteria to this as an athlete WP:BIO will381796 06:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Unfortunately, they're right. As long as USHRA is notable enough to be considered a sport, then the Annihilator is just as notable as Kenny Wallace. 205.157.110.11 06:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I see three keep noms which claim (or even make no claim) notability of this truck. Only will381796 gives any policy/guideline reference for the keep nom, and, even there, no indication is given of how the truck meets WP:BIO. Cursory research shows only 56 unique hits for annihilator +ushra, and none of those are multiple non-trivial articles by third parties, which would be needed to meet WP:BIO. Whether or not the USHRA is considered a sport is not a factor in WP:NOT, and the low number of Ghits certainly reflects as to the lack of notability. I'm wondering if the keep-noms have any other policy considerations to guide other editors? Tychocat 09:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment As I am pretty new to wikipedia, from what I've seen regarding WP:BIO as applied to an athlete, if they play at the highest national level and are verifiable, which this "Monster Truck" appears to do, then they tend to be included. I would hate to apply this guideline to the actual driver of the truck, simply because from my very little experience with the "sport," I don't think that anyone actually cares who drives the trucks, such as long as crap gets smashed. So, assuming that it is the truck and not the driver that is considered to be the competitor in the sport, it seems that WP:BIO can be applied, at least in regards to an athlete. will381796 15:37, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per above discussion of how WP:BIO applies. Monster truck races are broadcast nationally on cable TV and have been for decades, the top competitors are notable and should have a page on wikipedia. Amazinglarry 16:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep monster trucks. --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. For the record, Annihilator is another truck which I have not gotten around to yet, the truck has a long history dating back to Krimson Krusher, and was on Monster Jam several times as both Summit Truckstyle and Annihilator. The name is getting a new chassis, the old chassis is running as the aforementioned Martial Law. As usual, I will conclude with a plea for more people to help with Category:Monster trucks, most (if not all) the trucks listed there are notable, but I have not gotten around to establishing that on their pages.Arenacale 02:44, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per just about everyone. RFerreira 21:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.