Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annabel Port

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep Cool Hand Luke 23:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Annabel Port

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Non-notable person; fails WP:BIO. (Note: as of 20:42, January 30, I am changing my vote to Neutral) Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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• • do not delete. I think that Ms. Port should remain in wikipedia, when I first heard virgin radio, I wanted to look up some information on the radio personalities that was not produced by the station itself. I think her role as radio sidekick warrants an individual entry. This would also apply to Tony Moorey —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 15.195.185.76 (talk) 21:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

• DO NOT DELETE

I think that instead of deleting her page you should merge it with the pages of Geoff Lloyd and Tony Moorey to make one big page for The Symposium!!!!!!!!!!--Gumboster 19:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• Do Not Delete

Just look at the amount of debate/interest this issue has raised. Surely this alone proves that Annabel Port is significant enough to merit her own page, anyway the democratic balance seems to be heavily weighted in favour of keeping the articleConal 01:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

DO NOT DELETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Annabel Port is an extremely talented and funny entertainer, she played an important part in Pete and Geoffs Breakfast show on Virgin Radio and continues to do so as part of the Geoff Show.

• DO NOT DELETE

Annabel is the heart of the geoff show on a weekday night, you cannot just delete her from the website that holds the fountain of human knowledge!, she has also worked with Paul McCartney you wouldn't delete john lennon! (that was a bit extreme)but wikipedia has articles on people that have lived in the big brother house...WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT IS NOTABLE...annabel has done something, and she and the symposium have over 1 million listeners! DO NOT DELETE 86.3.88.170 21:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

• Do Not Delete

Annabel is Gorgeous, Don't delete you silly Americans !*Do Not Delete Annabel is a great icon for the Virgin Radio Goeff Show - a show with world-wide coverage. She is definitely a well known celebrity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.64.255.106 (talk) 01:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

• Do Not Delete

I think Annabel is definitely a celebrity in her own right and deserves a page on wikipedia.Penny79UK 20:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

• Do Not Delete

Deleting Annabel would be like deleting terry wogan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.200.45.34 (talk) 20:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

• Do Not Delete annabel port is a celebrity for many people in London and has been for some time now she is a great radio presenter and should at least be acknowledged for this somewhere, this profile is not doing harm, it is not offensive, it is just a biography of a radio presenter. PLease don't delete this 88.109.39.10 15:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete - I agree with most comments made here, the point is not that she is not a notable person, as it was stated before if Big Brother contestants are notable for living in a TV house for a few weeks, Annabel Port whom many people listen to and love on a daily basis and have for many years now, certainly deserves an entry. But I do agree the article can do with a facelift and tidy up. I get the feeling that The people who appreciate her somewhat original style have tried to create an entry that reflects that style and is unfortunately not adapted to what WP articles usually look like. She deserves a proper entry, so please WP people keep the entry and please fans don't mess up the page of someone you like, see what it leads to !

194.98.105.3 13:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Kathy, member of Wikipedia France

• Do Not Delete - it simply requires clean-up. MSJapan: you are wrong. The first result on Google with the term "annabel port" is her Virgin Radio profile page. She is a visible member of the radio industry, syndicated on a nightly basis to the whole of London on FM, the whole of the UK on AM and DAB, and worldwide online, and she has been nominanted for Sony Awards. All this article needs to be relevant is a cleanup. --poorsod^talk 15:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete - The item referring to the boyfriend comments: This statement was indeed accurate, a citation should be possible if you're able to link to the podcast of the radio show where annabel made this reference. Annabel is nationally known to virgin radio listeners in the UK, and also those listeners on the internet. Criterea for Notability states 'Widely recognized entertainment personalities and opinion makers' - Annabel's opinion is nationally broadcast Monday to Friday as her role as an entertainment personality in "porting controversy". There is not sufficient basis for removal, and more than enough for keeping the entry - Jonathan Lozinski —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.131.121.253 (talk) 16:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC).
• Delete, doesn't seem like a notable radio presenter. Jokes about boyfriend don't help. --Dhartung | Talk 23:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete "Annabel recently considered ending her relationship with her boyfriend of four years, on account of the fact that she found the latest Roxette single in their CD-player"? I'd like to see a verifiable source for that one. User:Dimadick
• Do Not Delete - she calls up Donald Trump's secretary asking him to come and play such games as "can Trump's pet play the trumpet". Genius - she should stay a notable person.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.228.233.162 (talk • contribs).
• Do Not Delete - Annabel is an integral part of "The Geoff Show," one of the most popular radio show podcasts on the internet. Her voice if familiar to radio listeners and internet users worldwide, and her sense of humour provides an essential balance to the humour and wit of Geoff Lloyd and Tony Morey. She is notable in terms of UK and worldwide radio, and should stay on Wikipedia.

User:Songfta (Note: This user has only 29 minor edits prior to this AfD, since Feb. 2005.) MSJapan 00:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. As an individual, she is not notable, and there do not appear to be any sources to verify any of the claims made. This article is the first Google hit for her, which is usually a bad sign. The second is the WP article on the show she cohosts. There's a few mentions here and there, but none of it really adheres. There's plenty of radio cohosts who don't rate articles, and she's just another one. Also, as there's clearly some humor intended in the article (which doesn't belong there), my final statement would be "I don't care if her boyfriend checks this page six times a day with Roxette on repeat, she's still not notable!" MSJapan 00:34, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per MSJapan. Valrith 02:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete- Annabel Port is a nationally recognized presenter (DJ for the illiterates reading) on Virgin Radio, a national station in England which is heard worldwide online. It w/b criminal to delete her. Martyfromnewyawk
• Do not Delete Annabel Port is a very notable face in British radio, and is nationally recognised both in the uk and worldwide. Clairehogben 10:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• Do Not Delete -

REASONS THAT DELETION OF Annabel Port IS INAPPROPRIATE

1. Notability: Annabel Port broadcasts to a nightly audience of over a million people in the UK (source: RAJAR the UK's radio audience research organisation) as well as many more online, with Virgin Radio being the world's most listened-to radio station (source: Arbitron). That's an audience bigger than most non-syndicated US personalities, and even some syndicated ones. As part of the Pete And Geoff show team, she has received multiple radio awards and nominations, including for the prestigious UK Sony Radio Academy Awards.

2. Other Media Coverage: She has been featured in large-circulation national UK publications such as the Daily Mirror, The Independent and the Radio Times, and appeared as a guest on both terrestrial and digital TV channels in the UK.

3. Cultural significance: In addition to this, as mentioned in her entry, she co-wrote a song with Paul McCartney. As one of only a handful of people to boast a composer credit alongside one of the greatest music and cultural icons of the 20th Century, thIs alone should warrant her a permanent entry.

ON VANDALISM: As far as people adding silly jokes to the entry goes, this is an unfortunate and unwanted of entries about pop-culture figures, major or minor. The boyfriend comment was clearly something mentioned on the radio, and jumped-on by a listener who edited here. There are hours upon hours of verifiable source downloadable in the form of podcast/archive audio, although this is, admittedly, an arduous task.

The problem here, surely, is not the validity of Annabel Port's entry, but a need for greater vigilance policing this page for vandalism and flippant additions. 82.69.47.207 10:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Lespez

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.69.47.207 (talk) 11:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

• Do Not Delete - Annabel Port is an integral part of The Geoff Show, one of the flagship shows on the world renowned Virgin Radio. To delete her entry would be a crime, as she clearly meets the criteria to be listed on Wikipedia. Phloot 12:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• do NOT delete she contributes hugely to Virgin Radio - without her the show would be nowhere near as entertaining. She deserves a mention on Wikipedia as a figurehead of radio presenting, not to mention her sharp wit.

• Do not delete - While the article on wikipedia is of exceedingly low quality and little value to anyone wanting to read up on her that is no reason to delete it, for the reasons preceding this comment there are many reasons as to why there should be a page for Annabel Port all it is in need of is a clean up.

do not delete. why? CAUSE I SAID SO. i am an angry hormonal teenager and if you'd rather have me causing havoc than listening to the MARVELLOUS virgin radio... you know what to do.. i warn yee.. i am a pest.

• Do no delete - As a presenter on the largest commercial pop and rock station in the UK (Source: RAJAR) she deserves an entry here. If her entry is deleted, then the majority of other radio DJ entries would similarly need to be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.49.61.205 (talk) 14:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

• Do not delete. - As a presenter of a very popular radio show in the UK she has a large fan base and therefore deserves to have an entry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.43.44.169 (talk) 15:02, 27 January 2007 (UTC).
• Do Not Delete - Annabel Port is an integral part of a national radio show. How about we delete Chris Moyles? 88.106.170.67 13:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete - Wikipedia is international and ground up in its concept. Annabel Port commands an audience both in the UK (on national independent radio) and internationally via the Internet. The radio station in question has recently featured the UK Prime Minister live on air (not as a specifically invited guest - he called in himself), so Mr Blair is not of the opinion it is insignificant. Vandalism (the boyfriend comment) and lack of sources are specifically listed as not good enough reasons to delete. The Geoff Show is innovative light entertainment radio and is significantly different from any other radio show I have heard. Annabel is an integral part of the Geoff Show (as she was of the Pete and Geoff Breakfast Show). I have personally not heard of all of the subjects of Wikipedia articles - surely this is the point? An Encycopedia is a place where a person can look up information that he or she does not already know. Panperoxide 19:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• Do not delete!!

Annabel Port is an essential member of a prime time radio broadcast that goes out worldwide, although she is not the main host, she provides much of the content and among the shows listenership she is very well known and loved. I see that many of the contestents in Big Brother have an entry, Chantelle, Jade Goody etc, even though they haven't achieved anything in life. Annabel has forged a successful career in radio over the past 5 years and could be considered one of the top 200 most powerful people in radio in the uk. I guess the question that i would ask the Wikipedia administrators is "Do you consider radio to be an unimportant genre of entertainment not worthy of comment or discussion now we have other forms, television, internet etc?" If Karl Pilkington can have an entry, then Annabel should also have one.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.176.235 (talk • contribs) 20:01, January 27, 2007

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 16:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• DO NOT DELETE : Annabel has kept the nation amused for years, she is a truly worthy person and has saved many a person from suicidal thoughts. she is VERY well known in Surrey, her biggest fan base. As a student i have just been asked to do some homework researching radio stars, i have chosen her, it is very useful to have information about this celebrity here. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.251.72 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 27 January 2007
• Delete. Just another radio presenter, no different from any other. Please, people, let's at least have a hint as to why we should regard this kind of stuff as notable. WMMartin 13:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete Over the last year I have become a fan of the Geoff Show and in Particular Annabelle. I think she is a integral part of the show. The show is worldwide. If you are to delete Annabelle port then you must delete all other Radio DJ's that you have listed on this site.

DO NOT DELETE: Annabelle Port is a well known radio presenter and a lot of other Virgin Radio presenters are on Wiki Template:Rvsrvs

• Do Not Delete: Annabelle is indeed a celebrity, and a well known presenter for virgin radio, There are lesser celebrities on wikki!

Worth noting that an effort to save this article has just gone out on air :)

• Keep. Sock puppets and rentamobs aside (why is the concept of the word 'keep' always beyond them?) she's co-presenter on the morning radio show on a nationwide station with a listening audience (i.e. number actually listening, not number in the area broadcast) of over 2 million [1], and on more than one occasion a nominee for the Sony Radio Awards. How many ears listening to you in the morning are needed to make someone notable? Average Earthman 22:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: I don't know that even 10 Billion ears listening makes someone notable. Aside from that, there is also the issue of WP:RS, which, imo, don't exist to support WP:V for this article. Valrith 22:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment If 10 billion ears listening are still not notable I suggest we just nominate Jesus Christ for deletion. And frankly if 2 million people are listening to you everyday then that is more notable than a huge number of people in wikipedia articles. As for reliable sources - I've given you RAJAR, which proves the station exists and is notable, and the stations own website has a biography for the woman. What are you waiting for, a book? Average Earthman 23:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Do Not Delete: Annabel Port is very well known in the UK, and many other countries as well. If you put an article about pete bennett on Wikipedia, surely you should keep this article. It only needs a bit of tidying up and it will be fine. BackInBlack89

• Keep National radio personality on a popular show. And found a Daily Mirror article about her. [2] (inserted into article). --Oakshade 01:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. She's on Virgin Radio, right? That seems to be a national radio station, and also available on cable and satellite. Sky Digital, I see. So, this is someone who can be heard across most of the European continent. That's somewhat notable. --Kim Bruning 14:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Notable radio presenter. One Night In Hackney 06:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep This page seems pretty overwhelmingly in favour of keeping the article, with most of the pro-deletion brigade being our cousins from across the pond who seem to know very little about British radio and its presenters (just as I know very little about American radio). Just needs a cleanup, nothing more. 88.81.132.38 20:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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