Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandre Saint-Onge

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The result was Delete per lack of reliable sources. 1 != 2 16:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alexandre Saint-Onge

Alexandre Saint-Onge (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Montreal-based musician and composer. No reliable sources to back up claims of notability and touring. ~Eliz81^(C) 22:07, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletions. -- A. B. ^(talk) 01:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Non-notable Québécois artist. The grants he received have a reputation for being given to nobodies. --Blanchardb-Me^MyEars_MyMouth-timed 03:38, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
• He is a member of two sufficiently notable bands in the post-rock genre as well as a sufficiently notable experimental music group, and the statement that "the grants he received have a reputation for being given to nobodies" is a POV assertion that has no place anywhere near an evaluation of notability. Further, the lack of sources in the article is not a valid deletion reason if a Google search on the subject does return valid sources that can be added to it. Accordingly, I have to go with the keep here. Bearcat (talk) 17:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I would say one of his collaborators, Michel Côté, is more than sufficiently notable. But Saint-Onge's own notability is borderline, and, since his bands are mentioned in other articles, I would give him no more than a redirect. --Blanchardb-Me^MyEars_MyMouth-timed 17:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Where would you propose to redirect a person who's simultaneously associated with three different groups? And by the way, are you able to confirm that Michel Côté the musician and Michel Côté the politician are the same person? Because if they're not, then the politician is the wrong link to provide. Bearcat (talk) 18:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I got the wrong guy? Bad me. Actually, I'm surprised that there is no article yet on Michel F. Côté, the musician and actor (who is actually more notable as a movie actor than as a musician). As for where to redirect Saint-Onge, I would say that since he is only a part-time devotee to these three bands, the redirect would go towards the one to which he gives the most time, with a mention of the other two in the article about it. --Blanchardb-Me^MyEars_MyMouth-timed 22:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

• • Bearcat, allow me to clarify. Both a google and a google news search do not turn up any reliable third party sources. When I personally cite lack of sources as a reason, I mean I've done my homework and looked for them. ~Eliz81^(C) 18:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

One of the two of us clearly has access to a unique personal Google that isn't the same one the rest of the world has, then. Bearcat (talk) 18:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you provide links to the reliable sources you have found? ~Eliz81^(C) 18:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete— insufficient notability asserted; lack of reliable sources of verify current content/notability. — ERcheck (talk) 14:58, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

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