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[edit] Deletion of the abuse

I deleted the remarks which were obscene towards Andrew Gower which were posted by a frustrated RuneScape player. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Draygen (talk • contribs) 22:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-Up

I have marked everything from "Creations and Programs" down as needing clean-up due to the following reasons

  • Past/Present Tense
  • Grammar
  • Repetition
  • Word Choice
  • Prioritization and Organization. What I mean by this is that the section starts off mentioning RuneScape, jumps to minor programs of Andrew's, leads into Devious MUD, and then, TA-DA!, we're back at RuneScape, mentioning the same information mentioned before. I suggest that the section "Creations and Programs" is followed subsections, e.g.
  • Early Programs
  • Devious MUD
  • RuneScape --Twipie 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info source

You mention that information was gotten from his personal website? Where is this website exactly?

Xharock 15:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

His website was available through archive.org recently, but it was blocked for a reason I'll need to check out. I wish the site was still there, as thats where I got almost all this information. (from when I originally re-created this article, 95% of it still being there) ~ rih29 19:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I saved a copy of his CV from his old personal website when it was still available, but not the rest. However, I can confirm that he liked penguins (he actually had a whole page of his site dedicated to them). I also have some old pics of him (one from his site, the rest from the webcam). --Joshtek 12:25, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
What was the old url exactly? its almost impossible to find. EvilHom3r 23:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Middle Name?

whats his middle name?

It starts with a C. I'm not sure what it actually is though. ~ Rih29 06:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I seem to recall it's Christopher. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.21.96.85 (talk) 01:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC).
Can you tell us how you know this? ~ rih29 21:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

How's http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/reporter/1999-2000/weekly/5816/25.html for a source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.102.136.55 (talk) 23:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

Does anyone else think that perhaps this page ought to either be a) protected or b) deleted entirely? The latter is another discussion, but it seems the only edits to this page at all in the last month or two have been vandalism or reversions of such.—chris.lawson (talk) 03:09, 11 August 2005 (UTC)


I think it should be protected, because this should not have to change very much. It is about a person, not a current event. This is not just a normal everyday person, it is the creator of one of the largest mmorpg's out there. --cattrain 01:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


Hi, I recreated this page with enough information to qualify. I included lots of information about Andrew and DeviousMUD! If this page is vandalized, I would like it to be protected. ~ Rih29 06:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking at WP:PPOL and WP:SPP, I really don't think this article meets the criteria for semi-protection, much less full protection. In fact, much of the notable information in here is already included under RuneScape and Jagex. Pyrospirit Talk Contribs 18:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Much of this information took research and none, if not, very little of it was found using those two articles. ~ rih29 21:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Game Question

Whats that monster game that andrew gower made before Runescape its one where you create your own monster and you battle to make it better...any ideas anyone?

I believe it may be Cyber-Wars? 06:08, ~ Rih29 06:09, 28 December 2006
I believe he's actually reffering to Battle Thingz. You created a monster using different parts of different animals/beasts to create your own monster you would fight, it was great fun :). I wish it was still around to play. 86.135.154.141 00:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Big tidy up - new references found, and original research removed

I have just spent a considerable amount of time with google and the wayback machine attempting to find references for this article. I've been through it a sentance at a time!, and have succesfully managed to find sources for most the key facts. The remaining stuff which was completely unatributable (and hence original research) I have removed, but I think the page is looking fairly good now if a little short. Before readding further facts please make sure they are properly referenced, and non-trivial. Thanks 85.211.227.3 22:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture?

I've noticed it's almost impossible to find a picture of him, even on Google. Is it possible to get a picture here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.1.207 (talk) 16:59, 9 June 2007

[edit] Notablility?

Is he really particularly notable? He's started a company that makes a major MMORPG- ok, but does anything establish his notability? OSbornarf 22:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, he's been in a few newspapers (The Times Rich List for one) and on some of the big gaming sites a few times. CaptainVindaloo t c e 23:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Worth $650 million?

http://www.dulcenegosyante.com/top-20-internet-millionaires-under-30/ lists Andrew Gower as worth $650M (£331M). How reliable is this source? --RS Ren (talk) 21:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Truth? Or vandalism?

"Between 1995 and 1996 Andrew created Doom II."

I was about to revert this, but I wanted to ask first:Did Andrew Gower really help create Doom II? I know for a fact he didnt "create" it, but still, I was wondering if this was vandalism or not.--Roflthatnoobgotowned (talk) 01:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

He created a Doom clone called Destruction Imminent, but had nothing to do with Doom II. --RS Ren (talk) 17:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The mini games are not found on Jagex's main website anymore.

Only Vertigo remains on the main Jagex's website. The rest of the games have been improved and moved to Funorb. I would like to fix this on the site, but I can not since I am not a autoconfirmed user. --TehKittyCat (talk) 02:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I am now a autoconfirmed user. I would Like to know if anyone supports the change before I make it since this page is semi-protected. TehKittyCat (talk) 23:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)