Talk:Andrea Bocelli

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[edit] Concerns

Andrea Bocelli has a wonderful voice. .......

I have two, reading this article. I've never read his book, so I don't feel qualified to make these changes but (1) it's called a "memoir," so I don't see how it is a thinly veiled anything-- it's clearly about him; (2) the back cover says "Here Bocelli reveals the anguish of his blindness and the transcendent experience of singing;" the Amazon comments also clearly suggest that he talks about his blindness quite a bit in the book. So it seems inaccurate to claim "He will not discuss his disability." I think someone who knows more about this than me needs to clean this article up.QuixoticKate 01:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I've read the Italian version of the book. It is most definitely an autobiography, but Bocelli creates a character called Amos to represent him. As it's a literary device and not an attempt to "thinly disguise " anything, I've removed the reference. (And corrected the publication date.)
Bocelli does talk about his blindness in the book, it's the press he won't discuss it with. However, there might be exceptions I don't know about and I think saying that he always plays down his disability was veering too much into opinion so I deleted the whole sentence. Kimberley Verburg 18:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Paula

After the sentence about Andrea Bocelli working with the American Idol finalists, it says "Paula bored him to death." What does this mean?

Speaking of which, where is the source for "He was especially impressed with Katharine McPhee"? --Mr. Orange 62.168.125.219 16:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TV Appearance Question

Earlier today, Bocelli was on the ABC broadcast of the Disney Christmas Parade. He sang a song during it, but I'm not exactly sure what it was, as I tuned in after they had already announced what the song was. Did anyone happen to catch the name of it? I'm assuming the song was off of his newest album, Amore, but I could be wrong. Answerthis 23:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translate

This English version of the article is missing some information. Couldn't someone translate the Spanish version of the article? I would have said Italian version of the article, but I took a look at it, and it was even smaller than the English version.

[edit] Blindness

We need some simple info on this article, really its at least worth mentioning that he is BLIND. Or when they look for a video of his they might wonder why he sings with his eyes closed. Basejumper123 22:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

The intro mentions now that he is BLIND. Check it out. Love-in-ark 06:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually, somebody moved the info about Bocelli's blindness to the "Early Career" section, but I just moved it back to the intro. It is a very important information, and if it is not in the intro people "might wonder why he sings with his eyes closed", as Basejumper123 very well put it. Cheers, Love-in-ark 17:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

http://www.op.tv/index.php?p=Andrea+Bocelli —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mallerd (talk • contribs) 15:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I edited an album cover and put it on the page its fair use! Basejumper123 (talk) 02:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately it's not acceptable. See here. Chris.B (talk) 07:17, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism section etc

It is quite clear that something needs to be done on this article. The criticism section could do with being expanded so that it not only covers the criticism but also expands upon it and explains why the criticism exists and from where it comes. Having just had a read through one of the sources used from the Sydney Morning Herald (n the lead), there seems to be plenty of information in that article which can be used, as well as information taken from one of the other sources from the criticism section. In addition the source templates could well do with being used rather than just a link to the URL. I have already inserted the "news" template for the source in the Lead.

It is also quite clear that there is differing opinion about how to describe Bocelli. For a long time the article lead called him something like an Operatic tenor classical crossover singer (or something like that as I haven't gone back and checked for the exact phrase used). However recent edits have changed to read "popera". Initially this was added unsourced and was removed by different users and added back in (again unsourced) by other users. Now a source has been added which has the "popera" title. Fair enough it would seem. However, that same source also describes Bocelli as an "Operatic tenor". So firstly the source used to back up calling him an Operatic pop (the compromise from popera) tenor rather than Operatic tenor isn't as clear cut as it would seem. I have no view one way or the other about what Bocelli should be called and no strong opinion about him as a singer. Is there perhaps another source somewhere which would clearly show one way or the other (and not peoples opinions about what he should be called)? I do though intend later adding the "in use" tag shortly and working on improving the article so that it has more sources for verifiability, so that all content is either sourced or at least the "fact" tag is added and so on.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 20:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd take a lead from the Mario Lanza article and describe him as a popular singer who has performed in opera. Whatever views may be expressed on the quality of his singing he is a Tenor. As for criticism, just remember that you need to differentiate between fact and opinion and recognise that this is a multi-million selling artist. Some serious music critics may not like his work and it may be easy to find sources for that, but their opinions shouldn't be given undue weight. I seem to recollect that many serious music critics didn't like Maria Callas either. Mighty Antar (talk) 23:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that, I am in the middle of redoing it all and will start adding edits soon. I will have a read of the Mario Lanza article as you suggest. What I am trying to do though is to expand upon recent edits and also to add more sources as at present there are too few sources. I do intend on balancing out the criticism section as at present I don't believe it does seem balanced, nor present to people who know little of the subject any background to this criticism. Once I've finished of course then it can be checked for accuracy etc and see if I get it anywhere near right.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 23:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
OK all done. If I have made mistakes then perhaps someone could amend them. It has been a pretty big job and I have also spent time sourcing much of the content. I think (if I recall correctly) there was only the one piece this - "A spin-off single to Time to Say Goodbye called "Time to Say Hello" has been rumoured to be in the works for a 2008 release" which I wasn't sure about though I have left it in but with a tag. I have also amended the criticism section so that it is a lot more explanatory and also so that it is as NPOV as I can possibly get it. I have for instance explained where some criticism came from (a review) what it was about (which performance) who was criticising etc. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 00:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 12:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)