Talk:Amsterdam (city), New York

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Whoever tried calling mayor Joseph Emmanuelle a "Plageerizer" (sic) needs to learn to spell before they should be making any edits, especially libelous ones. --starX 16:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Nothing against Josh Beekman, I certainly wish him the best, but I think it more proper to list him as being famous when he goes pro. --starX 20:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know exactly if Amsterdam is COMPLETELY surrounded by the town of Amsterdam, but I do know for certain that ALL cities in NY are separate from towns and are not WITHIN towns. So I changed the wording of from "Amsterdam is within the Town of Amsterdam" to "is surrounded by". Could someone with a map in front of them clarify if other towns touch the city?

[edit] Notable Amsterdamians

Why I have reverted the addition of Rob Millan to this list: I don't Rob Millan from Adam, but no reference is cited, and neither of the Rob Millans (both likely to be from Amsterdam) at http://www.robmillan.com/aboutus.htm looks notable to me, and I can't find any others in Google... --Orlady (talk) 21:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback!- citation added. Dr. Millan had consulted several key local politicians before going on to consult current Gov. Spitzer and Senator Hillary Clinton; has since moved onto thw prestiguous London School of Economics; a real gem in a city that has seen much better days.Dryamaka (talk) 20:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Entry removed for Todd Cetnar. Cetnar's 'notability' in a professional manner exists in England alone. Actually, local 'fame' is rather lackluster. An assistant college basketball coach is hardly any means for notability. Dryamaka (talk) 22:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Todd Cetnar is not 'notable' enough, certainly on the professional level. Listing removed Dryamaka (talk) 23:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

If he's notable enough to have an article, he's notable enough for a link in a local article. --Orlady (talk) 23:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with both of you. Perhaps his article needs to be deleted? --starX (talk) 14:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Education section

Changed description for Amsterdam High School. AHS is in the Town, not the City, and should be reflected as such. Dryamaka (talk) 14:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

If it were up to me, I'd create a single article about "Amsterdam, New York" and discuss both the City and the Town within that one article... --Orlady (talk) 16:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Fulton-Montgomery Community College is NOT located anywhere near the City of Amsterdam- submission deleted.Dryamaka (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, it's nowhere near Amsterdam... --Orlady (talk) 16:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

IMHO, the best way to improve the "Education" section of this article would be to supplement (or replace) the lists with narrative about education in and around Amsterdam. (After all, an encyclopedia article would not normally consist of a collection of lists.) For example, say that public schools are operated by the Greater Amsterdam School District, describe the geographic area covered by the GASD and the district's governance, and provide descriptive information about the individual public schools. Regarding Fulton-Montgomery Community College, would it be accurate if the article identified it as the community college designated to serve students and employers in Amsterdam (although it has only one campus, located in Johnstown)? See Miami-Dade County Public Schools, Goshen Central School District, District of Columbia Public Schools, and Minisink Valley Central School District for examples (none of them ideal) of how other public school systems have been documented in Wikipedia. The only featured article about a "normal" U.S. public school seems to be Plano Senior High School -- that also could be a good source of inspiration. --Orlady (talk) 16:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Town vs City

I actually live in the "town" of Amsterdam, and can tell you for a fact that, although the city doesn't "touch" the town, it is a part. (Citizens in the city recieve representation in the town government.)Malomaboy06 (talk) 02:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Malomaboy06- you're misunderstood. The City is a totally separate entity of the Town. They each have their own governing bodies (City has a mayor; town has a supervisor). The city has aldermen, one from each of the five wards, which meet at the city level (Common Council) which meets with its mayor. The town has its legislators which meet with the supervisor- so they are not a 'part' of each other, as you describe. And yes, the city and town do in fact touch one another (at Route 30, Route 67, Route 5 east and west, etc.) And no, the citizens of the city do not receive representation in the town. The city has one supervisor for each of the five wards which meet at the county level with with county board of trustees. The town has only one presentation at the county level- the supervisor. In reality, the only thing the town and city have in common is a name.

The town consists of itself, PLUS Ft. Johnson, Hagaman, Cranesville, Tribes Hill, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dryamaka (talk • contribs) 22:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)