Talk:Amnon Yitzhak

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Contents 1 Wikify tag 2 merge 3 OK for merging 4 A controversal figure in Israel 5 Category talk:Orthodox rabbis 6 Deletion in the Hebrew Wikipedia

[edit] Wikify tag

I removed the "wikify" tag. If there's no article here explaining what a "baal tshuva rabbi" is, it needs to be created, or the term needs to be explained in this article. There's no mention of the term in the Rabbi article. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 08:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, a little more information on context and notability is needed. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 08:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge

For the moment, I'm pushing for Amnon Itzhak to be merged with Amnon Yitzhak as the second is a far more common spelling and the article has been around for longer. Ayinyud 17:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OK for merging

Shalom and thanks--fivetrees 02:54, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A controversal figure in Israel

I think that the English article should discuss Amnon Yitzhak's role in religious-secular relations in Israel, since he had become a symbol during recent years. He is accused as well in murder of teenager who loved to listen to his cassetttes, which worsened his relations with his parents. Please don't delete these mentions, but develop it! Narshavs 21:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but the article got a little fussy with the discussion of what other people may or may not think of this person. I have put it more into focus and added details about Amnon Yitzhak. I really do not see why we should expand stuff that is really about other people than the rabbi, and even then unclear. Under the baal teshuva article there is more place for discussion of sociological impacts. Since such impacts are by no means special to Rabbi Yitzhak, there is no need to discuss them over again in every article. On the other hand specific controversies, such as a court case, the suicide, as well as specific discussions about Yitzhak in the better press do have added value for the article. gidonb 14:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, a good article abour a person in encyclopedia should include basic details, the public might be interested. If he is a public figure there should be references on his activity, even if it is controversal. There are very special impacts to R.Amnon, which should be presented here.Narshavs 12:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Again, there are no problems with presenting the Rabbi's activities or possible controversies that are related to him. That is what a biography is about. Regards, gidonb 12:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category talk:Orthodox rabbis

Could you please provide your opinion on the choice of moving living Category:Orthodox rabbis to Category:Contemporary Orthodox rabbis? Thanks --Shuki 21:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I have given my opinion. gidonb 00:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion in the Hebrew Wikipedia

An unbelievable thing happened:

The whole article about Amnon Yitzhak was deleted from the Hebrew Wikipedia.

It happened after Wikimedia Israel received a letter from an attorney representing Yitzhak, which requested to remove allegedly defamatory material from the article.

The article was deleted and recreated without older versions. For the short time that these versions were available, it was possible to see that the article was not any more defamatory against Amnon Yitzhak than an average newspaper or television item about him. Now it's impossible to see that, too (unless one is a sysop there).

Nevertheless, the bureaucrats of the Hebrew Wikipedia chose to salt the article with an explanation similar to WP:OFFICE.

The problem is that it is not a case for WP:OFFICE. Wikimedia Israel is not the main Wikimedia Office, but only a small local association, which is just beginning its life. In any case, as far as my understanding of jurisdiction goes, Wikimedia Israel cannot be held responsible for the content of the article.

This is a sad day for Wikipedia. I'd rather see it go down in flames, than give up to a lawyer. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)