Talk:AMD Fusion

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Please expand on my information about the fusion GPU/CPU processor if you can. --Xernous

Contents 1 GPU refresh rate 2 Out of date? 3 Broken References 4 nehalem graphics

[edit] GPU refresh rate

GPUs in computers tend to be upgraded two to four times more often then the processor, so it would be painful to limit the GPU by bolting it down to a CPU. This would imply that AMD wouldn't make a complete CPU/GPU package, in order to avoid being outrun by Intel, which is already ahead with the Core 2 series. But combining the two to speed up gaming, and the like is still a juicy target. So I think, and this is supported by this line of thought, and a couple sources (obviously still too much speculation for me to feel comfortable plopping it in the article), that its still gonna happen, but not in the way currently described in the article. I think it will be implemented in a way that the CPU doesn't lose clock cycles handing the graphics portion of the work to the GPU, or will ready the data for better processing so that the GPU runs faster. Like identifying it, setting it aside, reading the data, then sending enhanced data to the GPU, without losing too many clock cycles. - Thekittenofterra 00:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you're saying. The GPU and CPU will be two separate fully functional processors, just sharing one package (and possibly/probably the same die), alleviating the need for the PCI Express bus for graphics communication. The CPU therefore won't lose any more clock cycles when the GPU is working then it does currently. I see this product as being more for integrated markets then enthusiast though - the total package would likely have under a quarter the memory bandwidth of your average graphics card at time of release. Themania 10:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

AMD and ATI are renound for releasing enthusiast products into the market. Fusion will probably be aimed more towards the intergrated markets at launch (to be safe), but this doesn't stop AMD releasing an enthusiast version (after all, there's no need to poll the PCI Express, this saves time alone). You're right in the matter that the GPU chip (RenderX) isn't locked to the CPU though, they can (as far as I'm aware) work independantly still. Fusion just allows the CPU and GPU to interact at a much faster speed (bandwidth available alone is increased quite a bit). It'll be interesting to see what AMD have up their sleeve(s). Rasengan 23:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Out of date?

"According to the [CNN] article, further details will surface in December of 2006."

Has there been any newer information? 66.36.148.72 21:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broken References

"AMD's "Fusion" Process to merge CPU and GPU" ([1])

The link appears to be broken... not the greatest page to use for a citation

72.234.89.151 20:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] nehalem graphics

this article says that nehalem will have a graphics core on die, nehalem says it will be off die. which is right? Bob A 02:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

That article has not been updated since Beijing IDF, and recent IDF has just ended, just give sometime. BTW, I trust that The Inq is right about that. --202.40.157.145 05:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)