Talk:Amazing Grace (2006 film)

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Contents 1 Accronyms 2 Comments about so-called Christian films 3 2006 film? 4 Criticism section

[edit] Accronyms

I believe the accronym, MP, as used in this section is referring to Member of Parliament. Is this correct? If so, we should change the accronym to its actual meaning.Dcbnmlt 21:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

MP does stand for member of Parliement. TaylorSAllen 21:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comments about so-called Christian films

I have reverted the piece added by 07.151.255.113, referring to "the tide of Christian-based films" which, apart from not being an actual intelligible sentence, has no place here. It may be a very good film and well-received by Christians, but other films have no part in this article. Cheers – Agendum 14:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 film?

Why hasn't anyone change this yet? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NFAN3 (talk • contribs) 02:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

The date struck me as odd at first, too, but I think it depends on what conventions are followed for dating films. It was shown at several film festivals in 2006 (see IMDB), though its general release is scheduled for later in 2007. I'm not sure which event counts. MayerG 04:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I think that it should be 2007 too based on other films in the past released in early parts of the year, but screened the year before (see pan's labyrinth). Roboyang 18:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

It's contradictory to have the name of the article be amazing grace (2006 film), but the opening line saying "Amazing Grace is a 2007 film". I think it should be 2007. - Im.a.lumberjack 17:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• Hi, I've added a bit under the 'criticisms' bit - I'm not sure about the proper way to do it, so just added a bit bluntly. I'd be grateful if someone could make it look neat & tidy. Cheers.

[edit] Criticism section

I'm not sure that the section stating that the film "manages to credit Wilberforce with inspiring" the riots in Haiti is an accurate reflection of the film. I watched the section in question again, and it mentions the riots in Haiti, that the island is under slave control and that they are "waiting for someone to set them free", but not that they were inspired to do so by Wilberforce. The only mention to Wilberforce's reputation is in the separate story about the woman telling her son about "King Wilberforce" on a plantation. Admittedly the film's mentioning of slavery from the slaves' perspective is limited, but I think the statement at present is a bit misleading and perhaps needs looking at again. Davery06 09:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I've had to remove significant parts of it, as they were not cited as arising out of criticism of the film, but instead were observed inaccuracies by editor. We aren't citable. Find citations that speak to inaccuracies within the film, and they can be re-added. Without them, they cannot.

The film depicts Thomas Clarkson as having a rather minor role in the abolition movement. It confuses the distinction between the slave trade and slavery itself. Slavery was not legal in Great Britain itself, though it was legal in parts of the British Empire and would remain so until the passage of the Slavery Abolition Act shortly before Wilberforce's death in 1833. Any slave arriving at any part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland would be a free man or woman^[1] - a point clearly stated in the 1772 case of James Somersett.

Certain major and minor characters are inaccurately portrayed; for instance, the Duke of Clarence (the future King William IV) is shown not only actively opposing Wilberforce, but also attending sittings of the House of Commons, something which, as a peer of the realm, he could not do. Also, Henry and Marianne Thornton, far from introducing Wilberforce to Barbara Spooner, as depicted in the film, were less than enthusiastic about their courtship and marriage. Barbara is also depicted as quite intellectual and very interested in Wilberforce's political career and opinions. In reality, she had little interest.

Other inaccuracies include the singing of the titular song, as although the words were written at that time, the popular tune was not added until years after; also, Charles Fox, depicted as leading the ovation for Wilberforce at the passing of the Bill, had in reality died several months previously.

Wilberforce himself was born in Kingston Upon Hull, and despite some of the film being shot in Hull, the film did not air in any movie cinemas in Hull, much to many people's dismay.

- Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)