Talk:Altered state of consciousness
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[edit] Removed
- There have been recent MRI scans of people's brain while in altered states. Monks had different parts of their brain light up than normal people.
Strange phrasing: "light up". Deleted until references provided. mikka (t) 28 June 2005 19:28 (UTC)
[edit] What's this page actually about?
Having read what little there is here in this article, I'm left wondering what it's supposed to be about. R exactly what that is. What do the states of consciousness brought about by the different means listed have in common, that would justify lumping them all together as different conditions that should be placed under the same heading? I don't have the expertise to do it, but if anyone out there wants to add material to this article, it might be useful to include some discussion of the history of altered states of consciousness across civilizations (i.e., that all civilizations have had some means, chemical or otherwise, to induce these states), the purposes of such states (religious, meditative, recreational, etc.). Right now the article just seems too listy. I know there's a lot of interesting info that could go into an article on this subject, and would like to see it expanded; like I said, I'm just not the person with the expertise to do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_tank
[edit] Scientific ("Typology" section)
This article should be kept as objective as possible and therefore as scientific as possible. References to clairvoyance, mediumship and the like should not be included as they are not scientifically proven. If references to these have to be made then these should be separated out into separate section and explained fully. 82.163.238.78 17:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. I've tagged the typology section as unencyclopedic. GreyTwilight 01:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm removing the entire section. "Mental mediums", "clairvoyance", and "spirit guides"? These are quite obviously someone's personal beliefs and are completely unproven. Neko18 (talk) 06:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] EEG/Brainwave Of Ego Death
Does anyone know the brainwave pattern of psychedelic (LSD, shrooms, mesc, DMT, ect.) ego death? Has there been a specific studies on the brainwave pattern of ego death? Ken Wilber did some experiments some time ago on different meditative states of mind and he managed to stop his brain waves completely and according to him this is a state of pure non-dual awareness with no feeling of the mind-body limitations on perception. This description seems similar to ego death so is ego death brought upon by having no brain waves? Zachorious 18:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- → Sounds more like "brain death" — or maybe even death itself ! — to me.
- Is there any evidence that, uh, Ken Wilber ever... recovered from that state...?
- Just curious,
- —Wikiscient— 05:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "normative"
An altered state of consciousness, also named altered state of mind is any condition which is significantly different from a normative waking beta wave state.
"normative"? What the hell? Don't try to sound intellectual if you don't know squat!
If anything, this is "normal". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.227.35.89 (talk) 13:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

