Talk:Alpha Phi Tau Fraternity

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* "Presumed" means that substantive coverage in multiple independent reliable sources establishes a presumption, not a guarantee, of notability. Editors may reach a consensus that although a topic meets this criterion, it is not suitable for inclusion. For example, it may violate what Wikipedia is not.[1]
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If this is all then I don't understand why this particular article is considered non-notable.

Has anyone bothered to look at the website link? Or into the Heidelberg College website? That would be multiple 'reliable' sources.

Let me know, I guess, if there are more sources that need to be added. Non-notable gives it the sense that it is trivial, but I'm sure other wikipedians would agree that there are many trivial articles on wikipedia which is almost the purpose of wikipedia. Otherwise, it would be almost an exact duplicate of many other encyclopedias which already do a better job.

  • The sources must be independent of the subject, which rules out the website link and Heidelberg College. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 18:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)