Talk:ALCO FA

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ALCO FA was a good article, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Delisted version: May 7, 2007


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[edit] GA nomination

I have aesthetic concerns about this article. At the moment, there's a block of text, a huge expanse of tables, then more text at the bottom. My question is, are the tables really necessary? Wouldn't it be better to give a few illustrative examples of what railway companies bought these engines, rather than list every single one? If you feel the tables are necessary, you might consider putting them at the bottom, and maybe using Template:Dynamic navigation box.

Also, the lead could do with being a little bit longer, and I spotted the country of Argentina where you could drop the first three words, so there may be copyediting to be done. Worldtraveller 09:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I've addressed the issues mentioned by:
  • wrapping the original sales numbers in {{dynamic navigation box}}
  • completely copyediting the text
  • expanding the lead to include a broader summary of the subject
  • adding introductory text to the original sales tables, noting the total production and largest purchasers
Thoughts? Slambo (Speak) 18:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Looks much better! I've re-reviewed and added to the GA list. Worldtraveller 20:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Production

There is no mention of the rush to production of the FA-1/FB-1 in the post WW2 environment. After the failure of the 241 engine with the Black Maria demonstrators ALCO thought it was imperative to rush the FA-1/FB-1 into production. This was done without any extensive testing of the 244 engine which of course was the FA's weakest link. This is all documented by Richard Steinbrenner in his ALCO: A Centennial Remembrance. --SSW9389 14:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

{{sofixit}}. I don't have a copy of that reference (yet), so please add the appropriate information. Slambo (Speak) 14:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Steinbrenner p. 304 the last Lehigh Valley set was FPA-2 FPB-2 FPA-2. On page 306 Steinbrenner gives FPA-2 count as 58 ALCO, 19 MLW and 18 ALCO Export, FPB-2 count is 12 ALCO, 14 MLW and 4 ALCO Export. --SSW9389 (talk) 13:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Lehigh Valley Roster Extra 2200 South #77 pp. 19-20 LV FPA-2 594 and 590, FPB-2 #583. Photo on page 20 shows steam generators in all three units. --SSW9389 (talk) 20:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Steinbrenner p. 374 Pakistan had 23 A-1-A trucked FPA-2s. --SSW9389 (talk) 13:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The Pakistan units DE 2001-DE 2023 are classified as FCA-3s on Andy Inserra's Alco Export page here http://www.tamr.org/Andy_Inserra/ These units are the immediate predecessors of the ALCO DL500 line.--SSW9389 (talk) 08:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Steinbrenner p. 305 B&O had 10 FPA-2 and 5 FPB-2. --SSW9389 (talk) 13:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Steinbrenner p. 304 ALCO Demonstrators #1602A-B-C-D were FPA-2, FPB-2, FPB-2, FPA-2 and were subsequently sold to the Great Northern.--SSW9389 (talk) 13:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article Review

This article is currently at Good Article Review. LuciferMorgan 01:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delisted Good article

this article has been delisted due to a GA Review. Once the objections are addressed the article may be renominated. Tarret 20:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

See above in Production there are multiple errors in the rosters.--SSW9389 (talk) 13:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The DL500 "World Locomotive" needs to be in a seperate article. Those locomotives were very important to ALCO's export business. --209.86.226.17 (talk) 23:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:53, 8 March 2008 (UTC)