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For number 58, "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer", I thought Brando tells michael that in the first movie. Brando got quoted for quote number 2, so why not him again here? Even though, i thought, michael said it better. --- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.226.219.36 (talk) 00:12, August 24, 2007 (UTC) I just gotta say I'm a bit dissappointed I was hoping to see "I'm Batman."....... Batman (1989)
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It's also puzzling that no one remembered The Princess Bride (1987) with some immortal phrases like:
"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father: prepare to die."
or
"As you wish."
-The Scourge (192.118.128.2 14:32, 16 November 2005 (UTC))

Does anyone think that the quotes should go in reverse order, so that #100 is near the top of the page, and #1 near the bottom? Or would that be too un-encyclopedic?

I'm surprised we they didn't list "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!" from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Having said that, are we allowed to use the discussion page for such topics? --From Andoria with Love 16:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't see any problem with it as long we don't go crazy and start talking about every movie ever made. I personally was disappointed that no quotes from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid made the list. One of the best buddy films ever made. I quote it constantly. There are so many lines that stick with you. I think that's one of the many things that makes this movie a classic. I guess AFI didn't see it that way. "Boy I got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals." -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 06:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I think someone is having a bit of fun with the list. But I'm pretty sure the #1 quote isn't from CLUE. 99.233.78.251 (talk) 16:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Play it again, Sam

>>"Play it, Sam. Play 'As Time Goes By.'" Casablanca (1942). Usually misquoted as "Play it again, Sam."<< Not really. Bergman said the line mentioned above. The "Play it again, Sam" misquote is attrib to Bogey, whose actual dialogue is:

RICK: You played it for her and you can play it for me.
SAM: Well, I don't think I can remember it.
RICK: If she can stand it, I can. Play it!

Given the ubiquity of the Bogey (mis)quote, I think AFI got the wrong stick here. SigPig 04:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Here's looking at you, kid"

Can someone explain me why is that phrase so important in Casablanca? I dont quite understand why everybody talks about it and why it is considered the most important phrase in the movie whereas there are really interesting lines throughout the movie to be talking about... ("Round up the usual suspects", "We'll always have Paris" or "Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine" , for example). The Casablanca article says that the phrase "is not in the draft screenplays, and has been attributed to the poker lessons Bogart was giving Bergman between takes", but nobody explains why that phrase is so important that it was voted by the American Film Institute as the fifth most memorable line in cinema history. Can someone explain the context and the reason? Thank you. --Fredyrod 02:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The lines were chosen for how memorable they are, not how important. I believe Rick says this line three times in the film. I think it's also the last thing he says to Ilsa. That's why so many people remember it. --MiguelMunoz 09:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two comments

One, shouldn't this be italicized as a title? Two, I think that "My precious" is memorable in the books, much less so in the movie, and that it is the books that make it famous much more so than the films, and it's supposed to be about movie quotes. I would replace it with another Dirty Harry/Eastwood quote, namely, "A man's got to know his ... limitations," from the conclusion of the first flim in the series. Rlquall

Your argument then is with AFI. They came up with the list, it's merely reported here. The entries here are not up for debate, much as I or anyone else may disagree. --SigPig 07:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I think that even though "my precious" was famous amongst the Tolkien fans before the movies, the movies made it ultra famous, and now everyone who says My precious, says it as the actor voiced it ("MMmmy.. Presheeouusssh") [Mpicco] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.48.235.173 (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] "I'll get you my pretty..."

I was shocked to see this line so low on the list. I grew up knowing and fearing that line since I was one or two years old! I hated the wicked witch from then on once she said that in the movie. #99? Definitely belongs in the top ten at least.

[edit] "I am shocked"

"I'm shocked, shocked to find there is gambling going on here." - - Captain Louis Renault in Casablanca
Much better known than many on the list
I also agree several from Princess Bride should be there.

I've never heard anyone use the quote from On the Waterfront. I see that the Inigo quote was nominated, and I've heard people use that WAY more than some of the other stuff. Oh well, AFI's choice. Morhange 02:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reversions: "Incomplete" quotes

I have made some reversions because people have been "fleshing out" the quotes. Point is, the quotes as is are the ones selected, for better or worse, as being great. In other words, "You can't handle the truth!", not "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!" --SigPig 07:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I wonder if such a thing exists...

Anyone heard of a video with each of these quotes (in clip form)? That's the first thing I thought of when I read this list. If there isn't, I'd be interested in working on one...

--24.131.43.126 22:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

It certainly would be interesting to have such a video, but also it would be too expensive in terms of permissions to use those scenes, especially because they are so emblematic. --Fredyrod 18:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes/Misquotes

The "Planet of the Apes" and "Wizard of Oz" quotes as they are listed as of this edit are in accordance with AFI's own list; namely, "Get your stinking paws..." not "Take your stinking paws...", and "Toto, I've got a feeling..." not "Toto, I've a feeling..." If you "know" different, add a note AND A CITE, otherwise leave it to match AFI's ref. Or take it up with AFI, if you've a mind. Tks. -- SigPig \SEND - OVER 14:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too much Casablanca

Too much Gone with the Wind, and too few Batman (Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight ?), too few Princess Bride as it was said, and too few recent movies (Human Traffic could have been quoted, as well as both of the Wayne's Worlds.

"I see white people" is not Scary Movie, its Undercover Brother

[edit] Good old westerns ?

And how about this one :

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig." How can we possibly select 100 quotes, including several from the same 2 movies, and forget this soooooooo memorable one ?

- Good quote, but you're talking of an italian movie. -Gabo

[edit] Changed the lead section

I'm surprised nobody noticed the mistake in the lead. It was written that Faye Dunaway had two quotes, when she only has one on that list. Judy Garland was not listed as having more than one quote, while she has two. I made the changes accordingly. Jeffpw 11:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 198.254.16.201 14:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)racefan_72001

It was Faye Dunaway, Bonnie Parker, that said "We rob banks!" ....#41

AFI states in their nominations that it was Clyde, played by Warren Beatty. If you know better than they do, cite a source. Cheers. -- SigPig |SEND - OVER 16:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Badges? We don't need no 'steenking' badges!

The article says that this is often a misquote of Alfonso Bedoya in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. That form of the quote is from Blazing Saddles, which being a parody, I presume was making fun of the line from The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. So technically it isn't being misquoted but rather people tend to quote Blazing Saddles. Maybe the comment should be tweaked to mention Blazing Saddles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danacv2 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Toy Story

Does anyone else think the Toy Story line "To infinity and beyond" should have made the list? Phoenix Flower 20:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

No. Its not famous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.110.82.251 (talk) 04:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent movies

I agree with the above poster about more recent movies should have been considered. I mean here are some of mine, add as needed: "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" The matrix "Theres no spoon" The matrix "Yippee-ki-yay, motherf****r!" Die hard "What we do in life echoes into eternity" Gladiator "Freedom!" Braveheart "English, motherf****r, do you speak it?" Pulp Fiction --190.48.235.173 07:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)MPicco

    We can't add them, this list was made by AFI, it has already been decided. < I am aware. (the poster)

[edit] The screenshots

What was wrong with the Gone With The Wind screenshot? It's the most famous, it should be up there!

It is an issue of fair use criteria. The posters can only be used to represent their respective films... this is stretching it since it's more representing the AFI list than the film... gren グレン 02:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fixed number

Just fixed where it said Arnold Schwartzeneggar as the Terminator in The Terminator (#37) and Terminator 2: Judgment Day (#36); The terminator 2 quote is #76 as now shown in the page. Mpicco

Thanks for catching that. 'Twere I wot put in the wrong number. I sometimes get bug-eyed when I try to put in info like that with too little sleep. Cheers. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 05:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] pls Restore the list

List is a public domain, A user wrote to the AFI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:AFI%27s_100_Years..._100_Movies —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.101.96.148 (talk) 01:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Permissions

For copyright clarification for this list, please see OTRS ticket 2007041310002766. Mak (talk) 01:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Good Morning Vietnam!

C'mon, you're saying that's not higher than half those "top 100" quotes?

[edit] American cinema

The AFI "100 Years..." series is about American cinema. See the first paragraph of the main page. -SigPig |SEND - OVER 14:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] #8 Star Wars

"May the force be with you", is attributed to Hans Solo? I don't know for sure, but I would think either that quote would be from a different charecter, or maybe it's the wrong quote. You sure it's not "I know", when the Princess tells him she loves him before he's frozen in carbonite? I don't know, just struck me as odd, I kind of remember watching this show, but I'm not positive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.143.47 (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm going by memory here, too, but I believe the line is first spoken by Obi Wan Kenobi, although I remember hearing various rebel pilots saying it to each other as they prepare to depart for the final battle. I may be wrong about Obi Wan. He first tells us about the force, but I'm not sure he says it quite that way. I don't remember Han Solo saying the line at all. --MiguelMunoz 09:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Not sure why it's specifically attributed to Han (chuckling a bit at "Hans" Solo, I didn't know he was northern European), as many people say it throughout the movies, but he does say it to Luke shortly before the assault on the Death Star in ANH. It's definitely not another quote, as I once saw a rerun on TV of this list (albeit only from about #45 to #1, I just happened to land on it right in the middle), and I was surprised that this quote was so high. Zagen30 (talk) 08:43, 17 January 2008

[edit] I'm mad as hell...

The end of Peter Finch's famous line is always remembered as: "... I'm not going to take it anymore," but he never says it that way. He says "... I'm not going to take this anymore." This raises two questions: 1) Should the article quote the line as it's remembered or as it was spoken? 2) Does it even matter? Even if we correct the quote, I suspect people will read what they remember, not what is actually on the page. (I remember that, in the movie, when others repeat his mantra, they all say it the way we remember it.)

I believe Vito Corleone's famous offer isn't quoted quite they way he says it in the movie, either. I wonder how many of the quotes are remembered incorrectly. --MiguelMunoz 09:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Quote Articles

Am I the only one who thinks there should be more quote articles? I mean, Movie quotes like, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn," and "Go ahead, make my day," have articles. I'd like to see more articles about the origin and relevance of some of the quotes on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwhale9382 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Well, we have Wikiquote, which gives some exposition on quotes. bd2412 T 19:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Screenwriters?

Why no reference to them? Of all the places where they're ignored, this shouldn't be one. (although some of them were ad-libbed). EamonnPKeane (talk) 15:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How is this not a copyvio?

This completely reproduces AFI's subjective compilation (albeit with the addition of substantial background information on the quotes); I am concerned about the copyright status of this list. bd2412 T 19:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I have raised this as a possible problem at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2008 April 2/Articles. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
See under the permissions section above. Copyright has been resolved, I believe. TrulyBlue (talk) 21:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately I do not know how to view the referenced OTRS ticket. bd2412 T 12:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I find the mere reference to an OTRS ticket unacceptable as a rationale. Copyright violations are serious issues pursued aggressively by Wikipedia these days, so we should have a public summary of why this is not a copyvio. Can we get the data about the poll that created this list? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] James Bond Necessary?

Is it really necessary to mention every movie and actor that said the phrases? If AFI said it was Sean Connery then just leave it with Sean Connery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stinger503 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] There Will Be Blood

"I... drink... your... milkshake! I drink it up!"

Tops "my precious" any day of the week. 24.60.239.47 (talk) 03:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AFI lost its credibility long ago

I bet half of America wouldn't recognize the top 20 quotes...out of this list, the top quotes should be in this order:

1. May the force be with you 2. Bond. James Bond 3. I'll be back 4. You can't handle the truth 5. Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer 6. Say hello to my little friend!" 7. Hasta la vista, baby. 8. Shaken, not stirred. 9. There's no place like home 10. "Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You 11. never know what you're gonna get." 12. I see dead people. 13. Toga! Toga! 14. Go ahead, make my day 15. You talkin to me? 16. I love the smell of napalm in the morning 17. Elementary, my dear Watson 18. I'm king of the world! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yahastu (talk • contribs) 00:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Credibility is not the issue; notability is. bd2412 T 23:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)