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Contents

Let's get this biography to an 'A' Class

The article was rated a 'B' because "general biographical material is scarce." So I've expanded much of the info under 'Biography'. Before the expansion, most of this biography was about his controversies. If we can add more sources to the 'Controversies' & even possibly create a seperate article for it, that would be a huge improvement. There's still work to do but it can be done. Spellcast 12:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Let's get a more specific cleanup template at the top of this article. PhoenixTwo 00:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The "50 Cent" name

I believe that such an uncommon name deserves a section explaining where it came from. I didn't see any explanation about that name in the article. Can anyone add that? --Fredyrod 20:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Also a pronunciation guide.--BillFlis 16:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
He adopted the name "50 Cent" from a gangster of the 80s called Kelvin Martin. Kelvin Martin was known für hold-ups und shootings. Jackson has choosen this name, because, as he says, it embodies all what Kelvin was in the 80s. (translated from the german article) -- 85.176.223.145 03:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't think they use a pronunciation guide here. They use somehitng called IPA. Tayquan hollaMy work 05:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Political views

I've readded the political views section as it is a clearly verifyable ( referenced ) and pertinant. - Peripitus (Talk) 06:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Him and George W. Bush have the same birthday.--Chili14Contribs 05:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I reposted the political views section because it's factual and relevant. If you try deleting it again, it will be considered vandalism. --Rambone (Talk) 14:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

--I removed this Political Views once again User:Rambone/ User:24.35.15.107‎. You have continued to post weasel words in the article. We are trying to keep neutral in this article. You choice to add your opinion and your support of GOP to every article and vandalize other articles that feature those you don't agree with. Your recent history includes: Reparations for slavery, Elvis Presley, John Murtha, Betty Williams, and also many others.[1][2]. Your actions will be not tolerated. This will also appear on your talk page also. Remember you have to keep a to keep articles neutral, you are not toattack others and myself and need to provide accurate and present sources. Please try to work creatively when working edits on Wikipedia. Please do not show your bias towards any article. Therefore, if you choose to continue the behavior, you will be reported to administrators for your actions and therefore be blocked from editing Wikipedia. LILVOKA 18:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

This issue with 50 Cent and politics, I guess he voted for that Democrat Ned Lamont in the Connecticut primary. Seeing that the man lives in Farmington, Connecticut. LILVOKA 17:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

50 is constantly getting attacked. Its sad that he gets harassed for his un offensive views in the United States.

I agree we should put a section for Political Views as its very pertinent and relevant. I think it can be done in a NPOV way. I don't think it should remain under the section "Other controversies" as that gives it more of non-neutral point of view in my opinion. Something like below should be fine...

'The rapper is a supporter of President Bush. The rapper has defended the Bush administration's efforts to provide relief during the Katrina crisis and has been publicly critical of rapper Kanye West's unscripted suggestion during a Katrina Charity Event that President Bush is a racist. The rapper has suggested that had he not been barred from voting due to his conviction that he would have voted for President Bush in 2004. The rapper has referred to President Bush as "incredible" and "sees in him everything I am".

You can insert appropriate citations. There you go...

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The last note seems to be somewhat unwikipedian to me. We do not browbeat editors into registering a named account. --Tony Sidaway 23:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)



ehy does his name say 50 cent aka taha something i've heard of no such thing before only that they used to call him boo boo as ayoungster and when he hustled

Controversy

This section needs to get condensed down considerably. I do not believe it is neccessary to extensively document the events of every feud he's been involved in. The section could probably be cut down to a quarter of its current size without losing much. EvilCouch 10:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It is absurd that the "controversy" section does not detail the number of protests against 50 or the efforts to censor and/or ban his music, if not his actual physical presence from venues or entire countries, due to the high degree to which 50 and G-Unit depict a "gangsta" image with all attendant violent implications. Regardless of the actual merit of these events, they are a chapter in this history and are very much missing from this article as a piece of discussion. Honest popular culture discussion of 50 is not possible without noting the degree of opposition he has faced and noting that he has employed some of the strongest imagery in mainstream hip hop that we've seen since the days of the Geto Boys, after a solid period where these depictions had seemingly fallen out of favour among mainstream hip hop channels. ano3243234 23:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Also you need to change at the summer jam concert that rapper Domination and Bang 'Em Smurf were present at the concert along with other members of there entourage. 50 cent notice this and then poured water on them which led to members of Domination and Bang 'Em Smurf to start throwing chairs onto the stage. Young Buck, 50 cent, and security began to throw the chairs back at them. This led to Bang'Em Rushing the left side of the fence and rushing backstage. G-Unit continued to perform there set with the crowd enjoying there whole set. At the end of there set he says "Do y'all want to see "Step Step,Side to Side" come out and perform or do yall want to see G-Unit tear this place down some more" the crowd laughed Where he then dropped the mic and walked off stage with the rest of g-unit. Following this most of the crowd left because R.Kelly was performing last. This is accurate information because A.) I was present at the event B.)You also can see it on the documentary BEEF 3 TSouthSideL 2:54, 1 December 2006

Someone should also put the feud with that britsh guy, Noel Gallagher Bjj07 20:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)bjj07

Endorsments and Projects

As well as Home of the Brave and The Dance, 50 will also be appearing opposite Robert De Niro in the upcoming film New Orleans.

Vote

How is the fact that he supports Bush a controversy? --Bears54 03:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, why is that labeled Other Controversy? It should be renamed to Trivia or something. People above are complaining about bias and there it is.--64.75.187.195 23:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

im not a 50 fan but i fixed it because i think this shi* should be fair and people shouldnt bias against nobody/just tell the facts - name01870 DIPSET

Girlfriend

I saw on the upcoming Live or Die that not only was Nicole Scherzinger goin to feature on the upcoming album, but they going out and possibly fiancees. I think this should be definitely added. --69.160.221.150 00:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Ludacrillionam'ron XPac Unit Aftermath CEO

Does anybody know why he and his childhood girlfriend broke up after his rise to fame?

I Dont why they broke up,but her name is Shaniqua Tompkins.They are fighting for the possesion of their child and 50's got him,go to his Myspace u'll see a video in his mansion with 25 cent a.k.a marquise jackson. [[3]]

Other Nicknames

Other nicknames include Ferrari F50 and Mr. Ferrari. Someone should add that to the beginning of the article.

In his song "Wanksta," 50 Cent says "It's 50 aka Ferrari F-50" and in the new song from Eminem, 50 Cent, Cashis, and Lloyd Banks, "You Don't Know," Eminem refers to 50 Cent as Mr. Ferrari.

It IS one of his niknames, ferarri f-50 is also mentioned in "You Don't Know" on the version with Tony Yayo commenting (yeahs and whats basically) in the background, in the end, Yayo says the names of the people in the song and doesnt say 50, but ferarri f50, he says "You know what this is... Shady (repeat),G-Unit Aftermath, Lloyd Banks, Ca$his, Marshall Mathers, Ferarri F-50, its a movement (repeat), you cant stop it! Talk of New York Tony Yayo (repeat)!"

         If no one is going to make changes then I think this article should be unlocked.

Disambiguation

Curtis Jackson is also the name of a Bermudian cricketer, see Curtis Jackson (cricketer). I accept he is nowhere near as notable as 50 Cent, but I do think there should be a way of finding the cricketer by typing his name in. There are two ways to do this: turn Curtis Jackson into a disambiguation page, or put at the top Curtis Jackson redirects here. For the Bermudian cricketer, see Curtis Jackson or something of that ilk. Any preferences as to which route I go for? jguk 19:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Ye, just put at top, see Curtis Jacson (disambiguation), but right now, so many people were vandalizing this page, that someone locked the editing tool

Other language articles

what happened to that section? I just added the link to the kurdish wiki article and I saw none of the 50 cent articles in other languages are linked to from here.. why's that and would somebody fix it? (I would but the only method I'm aware of would be to add everyone of them manually and I don't really have the time.. there must be an automatic way to do it or sth..) Soapyyy 17:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

clean up

this article reads more like a suck-up than an encyclopedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.234.203.32 (talk) 03:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Can you be specific

shooting

50 Cent was shot up 3 days before the Destiny Child's music video "Thug Luv" in front of his grandmother's house in Queens, New York, but is stated that he was shot at nine times and three hit him, but his autobigrophy book from pieces to weights and other books about him say he was shot nine times instead of three. You will find the truth about this shooting in the chapter of "From Pieces to Weights": The shooter was on me emptying bullets and I had to go to the gym to get my legs back into it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xthakendyshopboi (talk • contribs) 16:51, 2 January 2007.

50 cent was shot nine times. one bullet to each inner thigh, one to the left side of the face, then six times in the back. he got shot in the thighs first, he fell onto his stomach and was then shot six times in the back, he managed to turn over to his side, that's when he was shot in the face. he was supposed to be shot in the head, but the shooters aim was off by a long run!

Although 50 Cent was shot nine times, the above paragraph is incorrect. You are somewhat describing the scene from his semi-autobiographical movie, but In reality he was in the backseat of a car when he was shot, not outside of it. Tysis 19:17, 20 April 2007

Although it was definite that he was shot mutliple times, the amount of bullets fired and even the amounts of wounds sustained by 50 Cent has been a point of controversy. 50 Cent himself has been unable to prove that he was shot 9 times, as he demonstrated that he was shot a total of 6 times in a recent Allhiphop.com interview on youtube (actually only displaying 3 total bullet marks). (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j666qzRC2gI)

Shooting numbers

First of all, I'm not a 50 fanatic but regarding this issue of how many times he was actually shot, there was an AOL interview in which he answered questions from fans. One fan asked him up front if he was really shot 9 times. Well actually the question was "Did you really get shot 8 times? to which 50 reponded with "9 times on May 24, 2000 I got shot… I was in the hospital for like 13 days...". When I first started editing this article, it said he was shot in April, which was incorrect. It also said he was only shot in the jaw and legs, which was also incorrect. Spellcast 10:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Well I originally had him being shot several times in the lead, someone changed it to an exact number. I just put back in several times, I'll put in that hdden shit that warns people not to alter the sentence with numbers until we get this resolved. Tayquan hollaMy work 10:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

This MTV article is probably the most reliable initial report (many outlets get their info from MTV). It's dated May 25; one day after the shooting. It says he was shot "repeatedly in the legs and once in the jaw". That doesn't mean he was only shot there; he was in hospital at the time. In the Get Rich or Die Tryin' video (a documentary DVD, not the movie), he shows a missing tooth, 2 bullet wounds on his arm, and 1 on his hand. This Rolling Stone interview further says he was shot in the hip, chest, and calf. This TIME interview also says he was shot in hip. So we have: 2 on arm, 1 on hand, 1 on face, 1 on hip, 1 on chest, and at least 2 on legs which makes at least 8 shots. So you see where this is going? These were the most reliable sources I could find & they lend support to 9 shots instead of the previously stated 3. Spellcast 15:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The police report on The Smoking Gun says he was shot 3 times. This is obviously more accurate than the MTV report and this number is being widely disseminated around the Net. The article should at least mention the controversy. Vagary 19:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed the statement: It was widely reported that all nine shots hit: in the hand (through right thumb and pinky), arm, hip, legs, chest, and left cheek. However, The Smoking Gun published an alleged police report stating that he was only hit three times, implying media confusion between the number of rounds fired and hit. This is misleading because it implies that there is a contradiction between media reports and The Smoking Gun, when there isn't. TSG says three shots hit the victim on the right, which is consistent with those interviews saying he was shot three times on the right side of his body (twice on right arm and once on right hand). Those media reports cited above acknowledges that info and properly expands on it, thus making TSG info redundant. Spellcast 02:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Somebody just added a number again right next to the hidden message, I didn't leave the user a vandalism warning but I probably should have. Left him a message though. Tayquan hollaMy work 02:58, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I reported him to AIV- he got banned indefinitely. Spellcast 03:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
The TSG report is being widely interpreted as stating that Jackson was only hit by three of the bullets, to claim that they are consistent is OR and the controversy is notable. TSG is a more direct source than media reports and therefore must at least be mentioned, if not given precedence. The news stories linked to by this article contradict each other (Spellcast's reasoning above is OR). Besides, if 9 shots were fired, 9 of them hit Jackson, and 1 more hit Alton Brown, then 1 must be a Magic bullet. Vagary 03:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
It is not original research if it's a logical deduction based on fully attributed data. TSG report is correct in saying he was shot 3 times on the right side of his body, and those above reports correctly expand on the full extend of the injuries. Those 9 shots that were fired is referring to the shots fired on 50 himself and not Brown. Where exactly do they contradict? If there is a contradiction, it should be corrected immediately, but I see none in those articles cited above. Also, you're making the assumption that just because TSG mentions 3 shots hitting him, it means that only 3 hit him. This can't be the case when you have other sources including a video of 50 showing a face wound. Spellcast 03:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
It's not deduction to accumulate the hits mentioned in all news stories. Omission of hits is significant, especially when the article is detailed enough to imply an exhaustive list. Here are the relevant sections from some of the currently cited sources:
  • MTV: "repeatedly in the legs and once in the jaw"
  • SOHH: "once in each leg and once in the jaw"
  • MTV: "several times in the leg, in his right thumb, his arm and in his mouth"
  • Time: "a 9mm bullet to his face, another in his hand, others in his legs"
Many of the cited sources are interviews, where fact checkers are primarily worried about verifying with the interviewee. This Wikipedia article is consistently cited as a source in online debates on this issue, so we must be very careful not to jump to conclusions. Regardless of what you believe the number is, you must admit that this issue is controversial enough that the police report is notable. Vagary 04:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I can see the different places where he was shot, but where are the contradictions? Just because it says he was shot "repeatedly in the legs" in one article and "once in each leg" in another article doesn't make it a contradiction. I don't see a controversy in this; none of those sources mention anything about a "controversy" about the number of times he was shot, and therefore saying it's a controversy is an opinion. Spellcast 05:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
"once in each leg and once in the jaw" = 3. Omissions matter: if an exhaustive list doesn't include his chest, you cannot simply add another article that says he was hit in the chest. We at least need to acknowledge that the reporting is sketchy. If there's no controversy, why does there need to be a warning in the Lead? These vandals are editing based on legitimate sources, so the article itself needs to address this so we can stop defending the Lead. Vagary 08:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
The hidden message in the intro is to warn people not to alter the information until this has been sorted out on this talk page- not because there's a controversy. I've already stated this before but that Smoking Gun article clearly does not explain the full extent of the shots when we've at least got a video of him showing 4 wounds. The media interviews and The Smoking Gun page are not in contradiction. How those articles I cited above are in contradiction have yet to be explained. Spellcast 08:38, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

This was also added: The Smoking Gun published a police report confirming three of those hits. Does this suddenly mean that the details from Time, Rolling Stone, MTV, and the video of him showing his wounds are unconfirmed? TSG article can't possibly be listing all the shots when you've at least got a video of 50 showing at least 4 wounds. Saying "3 shots were confirmed" merely repeats the info cited from those sources, so I removed that line while still keeping TSG ref for extra verifiability. Spellcast 04:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

MediaTakeOut is cited by two other Wikipedia articles. Therefore, I believe this article is a legitimate citation as evidence that a controversy does exist (but not evidence on the controversial facts themselves). I'm trying to offer solutions to the dispute that resulted in the warning in the Lead. Consensus on this had been stalled for a month, possibly because Spellcast reverts every attempt at WP:NPOV? Vagary 08:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Just because it's cited by other articles doesn't make it a reliable source. If there was a controversy about the numbers, it would have already been mentioned in reputable sources. You mentioned above that vandals were making legitimate edits. I strongly disagree- chances are those vandals already made up their mind about the shooting beforehand and added info based on their personal bias. Here's proof: look at the diff of the last few people who've tried to change the shooting numbers. 1 2. They completely overlook the info in those sources above because, to put it simply, they just hate the guy for whatever reason. Have you watched that video I showed above? Do you think he's lying in front the camera? Spellcast 08:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
The video should be cited by the article, then. Vagary 23:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I didn't cite the video because the face shot was already verified in the existing sources, which is the same reason why I removed TSG ref as it was already verified in the previous sources. Spellcast 06:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Let's say there was a police report saying a victim lost 4 fingers in an accident & that victim shows 8 missing fingers in a video. That doesn't mean the police report is wrong, it just means they didn't show the full extent of the injuries. And let's say there was a sentence saying a victim lost 8 fingers in an accident (cited with sources). And then someone adds 4 lost fingers were confirmed in a police report (cited with a police report). I'm pretty sure I don't have to explain the absurdity in adding that 2nd sentence; the info & police source is redundant because it was already explained & expanded on in the previous sources. Just because TSG says 50 was shot 3 times on the right side of his body, it doesn't mean he was only shot 3 times when there are other sources explaining more wounds, including that video. Spellcast 20:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing that you must've spent some time googling for the specific purpose of finding an article that says he was shot 3 times. This communicates one of two things: 1) You believe the information I cited above (video, interviews etc.) is absolutely false or 2) You may not like the guy so are starting off with a conclusion and trying to find articles to support your conclusion. Either way, this reinforces my comment that those sources I cited above are being very overlooked. Spellcast 09:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

There is disagreement here and many other places on the Net on how the factual data is being interpreted, and a lot of can easily be misinterpreted (9-shots vs 9-hits, scars from multiple shooting incidents, etc.). I want this article to be rigorous enough that it can dispel rumours, not be an eternal vandal battleground. I'm sceptical of the way celebrity brands are created in general: the 50 Cent brand's value is increased by each hit and the media is complicit in that value creation. I'm probably too into playing Vandal Advocate to fairly weigh the evidence, so I'm going to ask for an outside opinion... 23:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what celebrity brand value has to do with this discussion. The central issue is whether TSG page explains the full extent of the injuries and it's already been established that it doesn't. Even you've acknowledged it. 1) You first said he was shot 3 times on the right side of his body (as said in TSG). 2) Then you say "once in each leg and once in the jaw = 3". His left leg and left jaw is obviously not the right side of his body. So when you say he was shot 3 times, which one of those 2 comments of yours are you referring to? Spellcast 02:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I've examined the last 1167 edits (up to February 27, 2007) I could only find 2 edits to those shooting numbers (excluding yours), which are shown in the 2 diffs I gave above. This is by far from an "eternal vandal battleground". The 1st vandal changed the places he was shot to hand, arm & hip. The 2nd vandal changed it to hand, arm & left cheek. Then you came along & cited TSG, which says "3 times on right" side of body. Then you said "once in each leg and once in the jaw = 3". Left leg & left jaw obviously isn't the right of the body. So is it just me or are there some people who came here with their mind already made up about this? Also, those claims about scars from multiple shootings/misinterpretations/media being "complicit in value creation" etc. is not mentioned any reliable sources. Spellcast 18:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment

Cam'ron beef

he now has beef with cam'ron and has released a diss video. it states that cam'ron is no longer fit to lead Dipset and that Jim Jones should take over for him,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_poeloXyDmA&eurl=

yea you should add that into the article

There is no citation needed for the Kock record comment that he made, the interview is available widely on the internet.

thats true, but there is also widespread of the video too...why not link both the video and the phone call on hot 97? - name01870

there a new video called buck the world on youtube where the end he take shots at even insinuating he has aids- Debo7 (3/4/07)

It should be added that 50 Cent made a diss song dissing Camron called Funeral Music.

Shooting And Certification

I don't know about being shot 9 times, but at least you can tell he has been shot more than 3 times due to the fact that he has a bullet wound on his back in the candy shop video along with the one to the jaw and two legs and also in the first all eyes on me documentary by mtv he revealed the bullet wound in his hand that entered his thumb and exited his pinky as evidenced here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loGRWmeuADY

and what about about his album certification, i thought wikipedia only went by U.S. sales not worldwide if so then 50s GRODT has only gone about 6x-7x Platinum, not Diamond for his worldwide amount of 12x Platinum same thing with the massacre which went 9x Platinum worldwide and if that's so then 50 would have 2 Diamond albums since Eminem's the marshall mathers LP went 9x Platinum and was certified Diamond Black Panther7490 20:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This bullshit about him only getting shot and hit 3 times is just that. seriously, its pathetic an encyclopedia can't look at all the facts that go to show he was hit 9 times. LETS SEE THE HOSPITAL RECORDS.--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 19:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

George Bush Support

Why is this considered a controversy? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.27.168.204 (talk) 22:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

I agree. 50 cent's support of mainstream political figure should not be considered controversial.Rugz 04:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

50 is only being sarcastic, you people really need to realize that. Son of Kong

This was added again here but this time, under a new section. This article doesn't seem worthy of a whole new section about his "Political views" when the most he said about Bush is like one or two sentences. And that last paragraph ("Some contend that these statements were made sarcasticly") seems like original research. "Some say" is a weasel word and AWW says that while it may be true, it's useless and misrepresentative. Spellcast 16:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

There should be some small mention of it but it belongs in a personal life section or some other new section to put his off the stage activities. The wording that was in there needed work though. Tayquan hollaMy work 23:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I do think it goes in there somewhere, because it made a bit of a splash and so is a notable comment. --Delirium 04:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
The article badly needs a personal life anyway. Tayquan hollaMy work 12:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

If it does deserve inclusion, then it should probably have a brief mention in a personal life section. Dedicating a whole heading to it gives the false impression that it's a much bigger issue than it really is. Spellcast 11:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Year of Birth

50 Cent was born in July 6 1975! Not in 1976! Can you stop keep changing it!- SCB '92 12:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

When it comes to his birthday, the most reliable source should be used in accordance with the Wikipedia:Reliable sources guideline. In this case, an interview with a magazine (Rolling Stone) stating his birth date as July 6, 1976 should be a more reliable source than IMDB, which uses secondary sources for its information. Unless there's a more reliable source, perhaps his autobiography, his birth date (July 6 '76) as said in the Rolling Stone interview should stay. Spellcast 18:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you look at a review of his autobiography 'From Pieces to Weight' on Amazon, you'll see an editorial review of the book (Publishers Weekly) saying he was born on 1976. If anyone has evidence to suggest otherwise, please post it here. Spellcast 12:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

He was born on july 6, 1975. It says it in his mug shot, that used to posted on this site.

The mugshot doesn't say his birth date at all. The '76 year may very well be incorrect, but if 1975 is going to be put up, all I ask is a reliable source/evidence. Perhaps an arrest record. Spellcast 02:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

After seeing his apparant arrest record here (ID: 94-R-6378), which should be a more reliable source, I've changed the year back to 1975. Rolling Stone should've got their facts right & it seems the people who supposedly reviewed his book looked up unreliable info on the net. Spellcast 17:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Preme team???????

Was 50 cent a member of the Preme team?????? Did he snitch his former grue to the cops with a song called ghetto quran??????????? yes he was a member of the preme team but when he made ghetto quran the people he talked about was already in jail homie

Gerald " Prince " Miller was in jail but the founder of the preme team Kenneth Supreme was still in the streets when ghetto quaran came out.

I think that someone should add to the article that fifty was a member o';[bhy;l f4.l,ioxs2mkoQOnmjsxe,.rblh/;j.,'kl


???????f the preme team. yeah you is right about supreme bein in the street but one time already knew that he was a drug leader.

Police knew that supreme was a drug leader. Police did maybe suspect supreme about something. On that song ghetto quran fifty says that everything that police suspected supreme about was true. So in a way fifty snitched. It is funy that supreme has never said that fifty snitched. All these rappers that say fifty is a snitch. Why now? Fifty came out in 2003 and nobody called him a snitched back then so why now? I think that no one can say that fifty snitched and that this is a fact. Maybe fifty snitched or he didn"t snitched. How knows what is the truth? Same thing goes on The Game. People talked shit about The Game. Everyone says now that his a fake blood or a stripper then Willy Northpole does a song where he says that the game was a crip and then became a blood. This same thing happend with 2pac and biggie. Pac said that he had sex with biggies wife and east coast said that pac got rapped in jail. So i would say that people need to listen the music and stop listening all these rumors.

"gangsta"

In the opening gangsta is put in parentheses but it's not a quote. I think the parentheses express a negative bias. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.27.168.204 (talk) 19:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC).

Album cover

Someone keeps posting a dubious album cover that seems to be photoshopped from a XXL article here. Whoever made the cover actually did a pretty good job but this isn't the place for posting it, unless it can be confirmed. Spellcast 12:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

but that is the actual album cover.

Marquise Jackson

Regarding the merge notice, I agree that Marquise Jackson should be incorporated here, which it already is. While it may be inevitable that his son will eventually become notable, there doesn't seem to be anything he has done to merit an article of his own just yet. Spellcast 08:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

ya i agree

Unless the article has the potential to expand, it should be merged to this one. --Blueag9|Talk| 20:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the article should be merged.. I don't think that he warrants having an entire article for the couple of lines about him ''Imperious, choleric, irascible, extreme in everything, with a dissolute imagination the like of which has never been seen, atheistic to the point of fanaticism, there you have me in a nutshell.... Kill me again or take me as I am, for I shall not change.'' 12:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

After the merge, I've removed the 'Marquise Jackson' section because it simply repeated information I previously added under 'JMJ records'. The Wikipedia Guide to writing better articles says that a "one-sentence paragraph is like a cannon-shot during the performance: it attracts so much attention that it had better be good." Spellcast 08:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Who the hell is Shaniqua Tompkins? ThaIceman73 Talk | Contribs 00:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

50's ex-girlfriend/mother of his son.[4] Spellcast 14:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Add this album

http://shadyville.biz/html/cds/godsplan.php Musselyuk 16:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. ThaIceman73 Talk | Contribs 01:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

add this info onto this article

  • Here is some good info about 50 Cent that could be used from this site.1
  • 50 Cent Linked To Gunfire In New Jersey Hotel Parking Lot.2 3
  • 50 Cent launches condom line.4

--Peterm1991 17:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

  • There is good info on these sites about 50 Cent that could be used.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/123/50_Cent/news_feature_021203/index4.jhtml

http://www.mtv.com/bands/123/50_cent/book_excerpt/index.jhtml

Prisonbreak12345 10:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyediting

I got up to Shooting, it still needs more copyediting. See my edit summaries. Tayquan hollaMy work 13:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Got up to endorsements and projects. Tayquan hollaMy work 12:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I finished copyediting it and removed the tag, I'm not sure if we can say "disses." they like that formal shit aroun here so I removed it. Looks ok now. Tayquan hollaMy work 23:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Covers

Am I the only who is wondering why 50 Cent's discography page doesn't have albums' covers? Musselyuk 11:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed statement

"But rather than create new songs, he decided to showcase his hit-making ability by retouching beats which had already been used.[citation needed]"

I removed this statement from the Shooting section because it's derogatory to Fitty and it's been marked as needing a source since February. If someone finds a source re-insert it. Tayquan hollaMy work 23:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I can see why you'd think it's "derogatory" but that info is on 50cent.com, which says 50 decided to showcase his hit-making ability by retouching first-class beats which had already been used. You also removed the bolded words in the following statement: 50 Cent released No Mercy, No Fear, another mixtape of borrowed beats. Again, the site says They released the red, white and blue bootleg, "50 Cent Is the Future. So if it's on the official site, then it's obviously not derogatory. Spellcast 15:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Discography

today he announced that the 3rd album is "Curtis", the 4th album is "Before I Self Destruct" and the 5th is the "Greatest Hits"

he said this on Hot 97 LightSpeed1 20:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

More Editing for Accuracy

Replaced a word in the Shooting section (a shell hit his right thumb and came out of his pinky)

Rounds are fired from the barrels of guns, not shells. Shells are ejected casings for the bullets that are fired.

- B.Soto 12:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Real name

It says his full name is "Curtis James Jackson III". At the very least, we know his name is "Curtis Jackson". But where did the "James" and "III" come from? After looking at the edit history here, the "James" was originally added by an anonymous IP who got several vandal warnings about editing middle names. The "III" was later added by another anonymous IP here. It's hard to find a reliable source that confirms his full name since there's so many sites that copy off Wikipedia. So I'm leaving it as "Curtis Jackson" for the meantime. Spellcast 12:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

After seeing an extract of his book, From Pieces to Weight, I've changed the name back to Curtis James Jackson III. Spellcast 08:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Lead-in

At the moment, I don't think the shooting incident should be included in the lead-in. If that's put in, why not his jail time? Afterall, the time spent in jail took more time out of his life than the shooting. The Game (rated a good article) was shot 5 times, ended up in a coma yet it's not mentioned in the lead. Spellcast 16:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The lead could still stand to be even longer, I expanded it significantly. From what I understand the lead is supposed to be a summary of the article, there's a section titled "shooting" hence... Also it is a well known fact that he was shot numerous times. Tayquan hollaMy work 01:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah according tio this WP:LEAD the lead is a summary of the article, so that answers that. Tayquan hollaMy work 05:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

There's some minor details that should be corrected here. The lead says that after he left drug dealing to rap, he was shot. However, this Blender interview with fans reveals that as he was rehabilitating from the shooting & dropped from Columbia, he went back to drug dealing for a while. And maybe the statement about Dre producing his major successes can be tweaked a little. He produced about 4 tracks and there were other producers too. Spellcast 13:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Well Dre produced in Da Club and the video even referenced the fact that Dre was like his behinds the scenes creator/mentor. The shooting info needs to be fixed if it's wrong obviously. Tayquan hollaMy work 22:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

After opposition to the notes added in good faith to other sections, contributions are welcome to the newly added Trivia section.Itsmeltc 14:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I doubt any good or featured articles have a trivia section, which is why it should be avoided at all costs, as noted in Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles. Spellcast 20:01, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I just checked they don't. The information is so trivial and random, I think it doesn't make the cut. There ain't no context to put it in. If he wrote a song about football (soccer) then you could bring it up, but to just drop in random unimportant information like that is pretty much what defines trivia. Tayquan hollaMy work 06:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

bisexual mother

I removed the fact that his mother was bisexual because while it's an interesting fact, it doesn't really have anything to do with anything and it seems like you're mentioning it for a reason but you're not (it never comes up again). It's just totally random information with no context. Tayquan hollaMy work 06:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Controversy

Under controversy, shouldn't something be mentioned about the "Ban 50" thing. I don't really get what that thing was about. Oh yea, I think Curtis wore that shirt too, which can definitely be classified as "controversial". I'll look for articles about that somewhere, but in the meantime, someone do the same. This article is starting to become a "good" one. - NJ Rock

Picture of 50 Wearing the Shirt

This video shows a bunch of protesters wearing "Ban 50" shirts as some guy rips up G-Unit clothing. 50 seems to have adapted the "Ban 50, save the kids" slogan for some kind of charity. lol gotta give props for taking something negative and turning into a positive. And yes, this article is slowly but inevitably going to become a good article. Spellcast 20:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Picture

I appreciate the attempts to improve the Image:50-cent.jpg pic as an editor has done here with Image:50 cent retouched.png. But I still prefer the former mainly because you can see more. As for a caption? Well if you think one isn't needed since the Michael Jordan page doesn't have one, you can also say that we should have it since the Jenna Jameson page has one. I don't want to get into a lame edit war over a caption but my preference is if it's a free image- include a caption, if it's a promo shot- none necessary. Spellcast 05:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

It's easy to say you don't want to get into a lame edit war when you're preferred version is in there. I'm removing it until we get consensus. It's pretty stupid to have a caption—where he is is non-notable as you see only his head (he's not on the red carpet) and the fact that it says "50 Cent" has a total redundancy to it. Who else would it be? This is 50 Cent's article. No shit it's him. It's his article and there's a picture of a guy's face right below the part that says "50 Cent". Tayquan hollaMy work 21:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Awards and achievements merge

Regarding the merge proposal for List of 50 Cent awards and nominations:

Oppose There's no way all those awards are going to be included into this article. Besides, I tried a 'preview' and it makes this article about 37kb too long. Spellcast 22:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

But then much of the article is made up of nominations, which can be scrapped. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 13:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Aren't there other pages like this? I think I saw one linked to Michael Jordan's page. Should be fine. Tayquan hollaMy work 01:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

First video appearance

I don't know if any of you 50 fans are interested, but he was featured first in the video for Method Man's (!) "Break Ups 2 Make Ups" (1999) with D'Angelo in the club fight scene. It was way before he ever released his first single "Wanksta" (2002). The video is hardly available on the net (youtube has an incomplete version throughout), but it is still broadcasted. If anyone find it sourceable and important to note, maybe it should be included in the article. Lajbi Holla @ me 10:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


his first video appearance is with Onyx. In the song React.

Recent events section

Why is'nt there a recent events section.--Peterm1991 15:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Infobox: actor

Shoud there be an infobox for his acting carrer in the filmography section.--Peterm1991 16:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

One should be enough. Speaking of infoboxes, shouldn't his label years be removed for the main article per Template:Infobox musical artist. If there's no objections, I'm removing them. Spellcast 11:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Cam'Ron feud

Shouldn't it be classified as a New York Feud? LILVOKA 16:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I've integrated this under "Other New York Rappers" for the meantime because it's only a paragraph long. Plus, it reduces the number of contents. Spellcast 05:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

CT Mansion

As of May 2007 his house in Farmington, CT is listed for sale

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-50centhouse.artmay03,0,578556.story?coll=hc-headlines-local —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.9.136.100 (talk) 02:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

Peer review

This article's getting pretty good, a couple of weeks ago it had a tag on it for prose and was filled with slang. What does everybody say we get it a peer review? I just found about those and think it might be a good idea. Feel free to comment. Tayquan hollaMy work 12:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

The controversy needs work as it's the most messy part of the article. You got a good outline of the Ja Rule, Game, & Cam'ron feuds, and then you have this 'Other New York rappers' section that just randomly names other rappers without any context. It should either be expanded or removed. I mean does anyone actually care about that Diddy controversy? If all his controversies were listed, it'd take up over half the article, so only the most notable ones should be included. Spellcast 13:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
That seems to make sense. Tayquan hollaMy work 18:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
It also probably needs to deal with his personal life more; his wife and kids etc. Tayquan hollaMy work 21:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Power of the Dollar vs. Guess Who's Back?

In the section entitled "Rise to Fame" it is mentioned that Eminem discovered 50 Cent by listening to his album Guess Who's Back? ("Rise to Fame", paragraph 1 line 1) -- "In 2002, Eminem listened to a copy of 50 Cent's Guess Who's Back? CD", it later says, "Impressed with the album, Eminem invited 50 Cent to fly to Los Angeles, where the two of them and Dr. Dre met" -- if anyone could please clarify which album exactly caused Eminem to notice 50 as it mentioned in the article, How to Rob, that he discovered him after listening to the song on 50 Cent's album Power of the Dollar.

Eighth


Well 50's "how to rob" record appeared on Madd Rapper's Tell em why u mad album and so did eminem's "Stir Crazy" Record.

Proposed 'Personal life' section

Ok here are some things off the top of my head that can be added under this heading: His wife, son, tattoos, Bush comments, mansion, and wealth. Personal life sections can often be a breeding ground for rumors/speculation/gossip/random facts, so it's important to remove that kind of information, and that it doesn't turn into a 'Trivia' section in disguise. Spellcast 11:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Nice work, I see someone pu it up for peer review. Hopefully we get some responses there too. I'll try to help and male sure no junk gets added in there. Tayquan hollaMy work 04:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I looked over peer review and it seems like people get more responses here so I put it up for peer review there too. Tayquan hollaMy work 04:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Images

It's good that we at least have a picture for the infobox, but the page would really be improved if there were images of 50 at like a concert or even at some random event. If there are no copyleft photos available by the time this reaches a featured article, we'll probably have to post album covers like on the Mandy Moore page. Spellcast 05:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

But album covers aren't usable on such pages (I know that they're misused in lots of articles, but that's being cleaned up slowly, as Wikipedia is getting more hard-line on copyright issues). --Mel Etitis (Talk) 21:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
What about the movie poster, his mugshot, and the picture of him with his son that keeps being added? 123 Spellcast 06:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

External links

Am I the only one who thinks the external links format here is very messy? Do we need to add things like the G-Unit family, why not keep it to just 50 Cent? Spellcast 08:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree. These templates are getting to be mini-articles in themselves, and on an article like this they just repeat all the links that are in the article anyway, or which are in articles to which this one links. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 08:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Gangsta Flip and Black Child?

Everything from "Gangsta Flip" to the part about "Black Child" having a feud with 50 Cent is poorly written, definitely not non-POV ("Bellies the confidence in himself" is definitely not a non-POV statement)(this concerning Domination), and other than here I cannot find anything on the Internet concerning said feuds. I am deleting them until someone can actually cite those. If they are not cited but reinstated I will just have the article protected and before-hand delete them again. Scryer_360 22:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Personal life

The prose in the personal life section needs work. It's hard to integrate all those quotes. I can't really see how to do it just yet. Also the whole section is written in his own words which isn't really encyclopedic. Tayquan holla My work 22:07, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I know what you mean when you say it's hard to integrate those quotes, especially the ones about his son. The first 2 quotes seem pretty significant. Anyway, it's only the first 3 sentences of the paragraph that needs a bit of tweaking. Spellcast 01:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Contradiction

Under Rise to fame, it says The Game was signed to G-Unit under a joint venture. And then under Feuds, it says The Game was never signed to G-Unit. How about we get this sorted out? Spellcast 01:28, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

If you haven't done it already Spell I'll do that tomorrow. Tayquan hollaMy work 01:36, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Glaceau / Vitamin Water Investment

Re: "50 Cent, who has 10% ownership of glacéau, is expected to make $400 million after Coca Cola purchased the company for $4.1 billion.[1]"

I've seen a number of blog sources (non-verifiable) talk about how 50 Cent had a 10% stake in Glaceau and when Coca-Cola bought Vitamin Water, 50 Cent would receive over $400MM. There's simply nothing anywhere showing this to be true. 50 Cent did help create a flavor based on his name, but no official source talks about any ownership of the company or the size of the stake. A link to HipHopDX is included as a citation, but that's a blog. Anyone can write it. It seems this is being reverberated (see here) but not corroborated. I am deleting it off the page. The-bus 19:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

It was originally added here. The editor basically strung together a whole lot of info that didn't really flow well. So I reduced it to that sentence you showed above. I was also a bit skeptical of it at first. So unless there's a more reliable source, it shouldn't be added. Spellcast 23:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


What about the commercial he did for them? niftymatt 10:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Rapping technique

Why isnt there a rapping technique section in this article like the one in The Notorious B.I.G. article.--Peterm1991 19:24, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

There is, it's just integrated. His "unflappable, laidback flow" and his "deceptively amateur-sounding tenor croon that he deploys on almost every chorus". Spellcast 22:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah it's good to integrate it. A stand alone section would probably draw a lot of OR from users who aren't familiar with WP:CITE. Tayquan hollaMy work 01:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Infobox

Since this was reverted a few times, I thought I'd get a concensus here. Should dates be added to the years he was active on each label? I prefer the format the way Template:infobox musical artist says to do, which is to omit parenthetical dates and save it for the main article, but not everyone may agree. Any thoughts on this? Spellcast 02:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Years shouldn'e be included, because on Mariah Carey and Sly & the Family Stone articles years aren't included, and the articles are featured articles. Daniil Maslyuk 06:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

In a different edit, the labels that he was previously signed to (Jam Master Jay & Columbia) was removed, but why only put his current labels? If we were to only put the labels he's currently on, does that we mean we should remove Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit/Interscope when he retires? Afterall, we're documenting his history, not just current events. Spellcast 05:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry for removing previous labels. Yes, they should be included, just like on Mariah Carey, Elvis Presley, Madonna and Sly & the Family Stone articles. Daniil Maslyuk 06:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

His previous labels should be in the infobox but with date of when he was on that so itdoesn't look like he is currently on a label he is'nt.--Shadyaftrmathgunit 12:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I noticed you added the dates again. The dates were originally removed by an admin here who cited the template format. Daniil Maslyuk and myself also concur with the template format, so unless anyone else disagrees, consensus is in favor towards its removal. Spellcast 12:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for adding the dates again, i look at the template and you were right.--Shadyaftrmathgunit 22:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

50/Ghostface

I was just searching for like 20 mins for the Ghostface interview on SOHH.com where he discusses the 50 Cent beef but had no luck. If anyone here knows where it is we need it as a reference on there.Lilwyte 21:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If you do find information, be sure to put it only in the G-Unit feuds page because the peer review says to keep contents short. For an article so close to a GA, this edit simply can't be included here. Spellcast 12:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
What Spellcast said. Tayquan hollaMy work 18:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

youtube videos with really good info

The clips talk about were he got shot, ja rule gettin' robbed and what snitchingis and he talk about censorship, cam'ron and master p.--Prisonbreak12345 14:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Those videos may be good but we can't use them as a source, since youtube videos are copyvios. Maybe if the video is of a TV show you could by saying "TRL", MTV, air date xx-xx-xxx" but even then it would be hard for someone to verify it without using youtube. Tayquan hollaMy work 18:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

guy who shot 50 cent

info on guy who shot him in 200

[9] [10] [11]

--Prisonbreak12345 16:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Ventures section

I was looking over the ventures sections and I think the sub-headings are kind of unecessary. See Michael Jordan#Media figures and business interests and others. If we word it smoothly and use good transitions we should be able to just cover it in one section. Comments? Tayquan hollaMy work 00:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Go, go, go! Spellcast 05:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I started it using an opening sentence or two here and there to try and tie it together. Could use some tweaking. I moved the video game voice over into the second paragraph since I think that's technically acting, and all the acting stuff is in the second paragraph. Also maybe "Other ventures" or "Business ventures" might be a better title, just shooting out ideas. Tayquan hollaMy work 18:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey Sell I'm not surte those sentences you deleted were redundant, if you look at the Jordan or read Strunk and White (rules 9 & 10) the first sentence of a para is normally a sentence to establish the topic of a paragraph and help with flow. Since the three are pretty evenly divided as endorsements, acting, and writing I think they're necessary. Also I think the videogame thing is technically acting although that's debatable. What do you think? Tayquan hollaMy work 22:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
50 said he spent 20 hours doing voice over and motion capture here, so I guess that's acting. And I removed those opening sentences here because on the Gwen Stefani page, it jumps straight into her non-musical ventures without really giving an overview. Anyway, if you want to add those opening sentences again, go ahead. I just thought it would be ok to jump right in. Spellcast 03:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it looks alright, as long as it seems to flow smoothly. Tayquan hollaMy work 01:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

shot 3 times

He was really only shot 3 times.the police report checks that out.Even a newspaper article proves it.Someone needs to change that lie.Somebody has to tell the truth.If you dont believe me go to smoking gun.com to see the police report

u dont understand, if read correctly it says on smoking gun he was shot three times on right (side of his body) which he was, besides, we cant go with it as too many other accounts cancel out, besides theres a bullet scar on his back, that makes it at least four - NJ Rock

It's not worth repeating all this again, but read the discussion above under 'Shooting numbers' and watch the video of him showing more wounds than what's said in The Smoking Gun. That source doesn't even show the full report. It says "three shots hit the victim on the right" and then the sentence gets cut off. 50 obviously wasn't only shot on the right side of his body when he shows a closeup wound on his left cheek. You can even see a dimple every time you look at his left cheek. To put it simply, this whole thing about him only being hit 3 times comes from people who just don't like the guy. Spellcast 14:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)