Talk:2008 Hewa Bora Airways crash

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Contents 1 Article name 2 l’avenue du 20 mai 3 Response Language 4 Age of an airplane

[edit] Article name

I don't care where people move it - I just merged two separate articles to ensure that everything is in the same place. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Any information on the flight number? The ideal title would be Hewa Bora Airways Flight xxx. -- Flyguy649 ^talk 01:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Judging by their timetable they don't use flight numbers! LeadSongDog (talk) 03:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

WooHoo, we made the front page!LeadSongDog (talk) 03:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

That's actually where I found the article. If they don't use flight numbers, then this is probably a good enough title for now. -- Flyguy649 ^talk 03:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] l’avenue du 20 mai

In the link given it is described as L’avenue du 20 mai, but shouldnt it be L’avenue du 20 Mai? Mjroots (talk) 05:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

No. Months aren't capitalized in French. Save-Me-Oprah^(talk) 20:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, but what about the capital L? Mjroots (talk) 08:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

There is a capital L only because is it the beginning of a sentence. Morana (talk) 11:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response Language

Anyone feel like translating that into English? I'd be willing to bet that most English Wiki users, myself included, do not have a working knowledge of French, so that paragraph is really of no use to us. Thanks. Just Add Water (talk) 02:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I did a quick translation as "The responsibility of the crash of a Hewa Bora Airways DC 9 on 15 April in Goma is primarily attributable to the Congolese government, according to Renadhoc, the National Network of Non-Governmental Human Rights Organisations in the DRC."

Feel free to amend/move/remove it as necessary. -- Flyguy649 ^talk 02:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

It's amazing that responsibility has been assigned so quickly. Normally that sort of thing is only announced after the local Air Accident Investigators have done a thorough examination and issued a report on the accident. A process which can take two years or more! Mjroots (talk) 20:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't hold your breath. This is the eastern DRC. Browse through the DRC crashes over the last years and see how many professional investigations you find.LeadSongDog (talk) 22:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Responsibility is always assigned quickly. It's only responsible organizations that waste time figuring out what really happened.--Prosfilaes (talk) 11:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Age of an airplane

I wasn't trying to editorialize or present a half-truth; Most of the aircraft in our fleet are 25+ years old. We inspect them on a mandated schedule and get fined or penalized when we don't -- Just look at the recent American Airlines incident for a good example of this. AA got busted skating on maintenance and it cost them.

Airplanes are not like your car, they don't just rot away and eventually fall out of the sky when they reach some magic age. We maintain them, upgrade them, and replace parts as they age. Besides that, we don't measure their ages in years, but in pressurization cycles. A heavily-used aircraft wears out much faster than one that sits around idle. I guess I could provide some maintenance logs or something as a source, but I'm not sure I would be allowed to do that, and I don't want to risk my job.

I guess I'm unsure what you want me to do. I'm new to this whole wiki thing, I'm a pilot, and I just want to help people understand what happened without being biased or sensationalistic about it.

--98.214.105.54 (talk) 03:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

(Moved from my talk page--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC))

But cars don't just rot away and fall apart when they hit some magic age. 15 years ago, when I was in school, someone drove his Model T to school to show our history class. That doesn't negate the fact that older cars just aren't as trustworthy as newer cars, and when they are it's because they've been locked in storage, not driven every day.

Moreover, the article as it is says merely that the plane was 31 years old, and provides no interpretation on that fact. If there is interpretation on that fact, it needs to come from our sources.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)