Talk:1960 U-2 incident

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1 Clean-Up
2 Wreck image
3 Conspiracies regarding the U-2 Crisis
4 Eisenhower lied?
5 Tut tut
6 U2 Incident vs U2 Crisis

[edit] Clean-Up

I just deleted some irrelevancies. I know, should'nt have done this before warning..

The article is even now not perfect. Somebody with REAL knowledge could edit this.

[edit] Wreck image

Added an image of the wreck I took on my trip to Moscow. I don't know if it's really relevant, but might interest someone. —The preceding signed comment was added by Ravallo (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Conspiracies regarding the U-2 Crisis

I've heard a number of notable people who claim that the U-2 crisis was an intentional effort by ultra-hawkish anti-communist forces within the military to prevent the Paris Summit from being a success by angering the Soviets. They argue the pilot was setup so he could be shot down by the Soviets and create the crisis. Eisenhower is said to have been out of the loop and thus essentially stabbed in the back. If I'm remembering correctly, I believe the "military industrial complex" comment Eisenhower made upon leaving was said to be partially tied to the U-2 crisis, based on the claim that Eisenhower saw the military industrial complex as major player in the crisis due to the idea that increased tensions between the US and the Soviets would lead to increased spending on the military to their benefit. I will try to dig up these sources for this claim. While this may be viewed by some as just a "conspiracy theory", I do think it merits at least brief mention in the article. --Cab88 14:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I heard a while back that Gary Powers was taken down by some Russian pilot trying to ram him and managed to tip his plane out of balance. Whatever happened to that story? Masterblooregard 08:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eisenhower lied?

I recall newspaper reports from the time in which Ike lied and said it was a weather plane which had gone off course, which Krushcvev refuted by presenting the pilot and his spy camera to reporters. If a 'verifiable source " for this can be found, does it belong in this and the Eisenhower article? The point of this is to differentiate between the unwittingly incorrect statement of some Pentagon functionary or White House press person and a knowing misstatement by a head of state.Edison 23:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Searching the NY Times for May 1960, it turns out that Ike did not go before the cameras and personally lie about the U2. First, a NASA spokesman lied and said it was a marked NASA weather plane . The pilot had had oxygen trouble. Then when Nikita K produced the pilot and his developed spy pictures, the lie was that it was an unauthorized reconnaisance flight. Lower level bureaucrats from the State Department told that lie. So no bold-faced lie from Ike on this occasion, but later analysis said he had knowledge of surveillance overflights and of course of the lies told as part of the spin.Edison 00:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tut tut

Much of the "American cover-up and exposure" section is copied word for word from [1]. Fortunately, I wrote it and hereby license it under GFDL. Jpatokal 09:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U2 Incident vs U2 Crisis

I beleive that the correct title of this topic should be "The U2 Incident". Who has the authority to make that change? I would also be glad to contribute and edit the info in this section. However, I would prefer to submit a draft for review before making changes and adding info that will only be removed. Some of my source material comes from the Powers collection which I care for. Any suggestions on how to proceed would be appriciated. Gpowersjr 06:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)