Talk:108 Stars of Destiny

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moved from article page as recommended on Wikipedia:Requests for expansion --Philip Baird Shearer 21:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 108 Star Bonuses.

108 Stars of Destiny, while making mention of the games, should really be a more generic article. The expert tag is warranted: now let's add a split too. Keep game stuff in game articles and help eliminate things that could be considered unnecessary fancruft.--Trent Arms 11:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

From the article:

In Suikoden IV, it is by their power that the Rune of Punishment ended it's atonement phase and moved into its forgiveness phase.

First off, I'm not sure I entirely buy the miracle explanation, preferring a more prosaic "bonus" approach (especially for S3)... that said, is this what really happened? Perhaps Suikoden Tactics clears things up, so maybe someone can comment on the role the hero has there. My impression was that you merely got to see that the hero lived... and that he'd probably been tossed out on a rowboat by the Island Nationers eager to get rid of the Rune of Punishment which had caused so many problems. I mean, you don't see the boat he's hailing turn or anything, just a pan, and it seems unlikely that the Rune could have teleported him onto a random skiff... I never got any impression that the Rune was going into the forgiveness phase, aside from the unresolved mystery of why the Hero didn't disintegrate and die. Then again, it does make some sense if you assume that the Hero straight-up disintegrates if you don't get 108 Stars.

[edit] Suikoden section split-off?

D3v4st4t0r split off the Suiko chart and moved it to a special Suikoden page, although lots of the links still point to here. I'm not sure I agree with that; the "original" 108 Stars are certainly relevant for the Suikoden section for comparison, and I don't think we get much added by having a separate page. I'm not completely against it having its own page, but it should be done with discussion, and with moving a lot more links should it actually occur. Any thoughts? SnowFire 16:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I really don't care either way but logic tells me that every subject deserves its own page and these stars of destiny is not the same thing as the Suikoden stars of destiny. And considering that the SoD concept in Suikoden directly comes from The Water Margin, it makes sense if the original source is located on this page and that Suikoden's SoD is shuffled of to a Suikoden specific SoD page. (Djungelurban 11:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC))

Hmm. Well, I just think that the original information is interesting, but since Devastator presumably agrees with you, if no one else pipes up within the next few days, I'll go ahead and move it back. SnowFire 19:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)