Talk:Æthelberht of Kent

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[edit] B Class Article

I am sure this article should be a B class article, so I am changing it to B. Asturrulumbo 01:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bertha

According to Barbara Yorke, "Kings and Kingdoms of Early Anglo-Saxon England", p. 28, Bertha was a Frankish princess, but "not a particularly prestigious one". It would be nice to understand why Yorke says this and incorporate this comment into the article. Mike Christie (talk) 03:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I also think it would be get to find a source for her death date; the WP entry on Bertha of Kent gives no source for their death date of c. 612. Bede says Eadbald married Æthelberht's "second" wife; presumably his stepmother. The article says nothing about this wife except to mention that Eadbald married her. Mike Christie (talk) 01:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
There is material in Higham's Convert Kings which might be useful. Higham devotes 80 or so pages to Æthelberht and his conversion, quite a lot of it dealing with Francia. Bertha's father died in 567, so she wasn't the daughter of a ruling king. Although she may not have been especially important in Francia, but a marriage to any Frankish princess, even a cousin of a king, put the Kentings on much the same level as the Visigoths and Lombards, so she was undoubtedly important to Æthelberht and his father. Anyway, I don't see how Bertha's death could be dated. Her date of birth of 540x550 given by e.g. Riché presumably rests on the assumption of a long reign for Æthelberht, but since a shorter reign seems to be favoured now, that can't really be relied upon unless we're to suppose that he married a rather middle-aged Bertha. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infelicity

"Æthelberht was later canonised for his role in restoring Christianity to the island of Great Britain". Ahem! Would "Æthelberht was later canonised for his role in establishing Christianity among the Anglo-Saxons" do? Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops. Done. I realized that the source given does actually not say why he was canonized; it's not controversial, but if you spot a source that does give the details, it would be good to add it. Mike Christie (talk) 05:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
As I understand it, people don't get canonized as a reward for what they did in life; they get canonized because miracles can be attributed to them or because they were martyred. —Angr If you've written a quality article... 20:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I think the Saint Ethelbert who was a miracle-working saint may not have been the King of Kent. There is a Saint Ethlebert who was king of somewhere else buried in Hereford Cathedral. He may even have been martyred,but I can't remember the full story. Nennius, 8/1/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.100.147.51 (talk) 23:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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