Talk:Ys
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How is it pronounced?
- The SAMPA for Ys is /is/ (that's how I always heard it, and it's also the most logical French pronunciation). → SeeSchloß 08:12, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Alternate tale: I heard a version that the kingdom was destroyed by the kings daughter who was jealous that her sister was to wed her lover. Has anybody else heard this version? jocago 22:56, 06 July 2006 (EST)
[edit] Roman Roads
"several Roman roads actually lead into the sea" can anyone actually provide details of this, a map perhaps, or link to a website doing so. This is seemingly good evidence, and should be substanciated if it is genuine. Graldensblud 15:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- I find the possibility of a single Roman road leading into the sea highly unlikely, let alone several! Armorica was pretty marginal to the Romans and not exactly covered by a major road network. This seems like yet another example of "Celtic mist". This has stood here long enough without a source being provided and should now be removed. Enaidmawr (talk) 22:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- Why wait? Here's the material I've just removed (needing a citation for 6 months): "This deluge legend differs from others because the location of Ys is well defined: the statue of Gradlon looks at it, most of the localities mentioned exist, several Roman roads actually lead into the sea (and are meant to lead to Ys), and this myth could in fact depict the engulfment of a real city during the 5th century". A few points: 1. It does not "differ from others" because its location "is well defined"; other legends of this sort could claim that too (e.g. Cantre'r Gwaelod). 2. "the statue of Gradlon looks at it" (sic!) - well, as it was erected in the Middle Ages by people familiar with the legend, what does that prove?! 3. Roman roads - see above. 4. "and this myth in fact depicts the engulfment of a real city during the fifth century". Em, just how exactly does it do that? Even if there is a "source" for this speculative nonsense it remains just that. Enaidmawr (talk) 23:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Examples of rising seas
These sentences, at the bottom of the Ys#The Legend section, would seem to constitute original research to me. While I'm sure sources could be found to verify that these the water level has risen in three places, it would be appear to be a synthesis of things not explicitly tied together by sources to list them here (listing them here implicitly tying them to this legend.)
Of course, if a source has actually used these examples in relation to the Ys legend, it is perfectly appropriate, but I find this unlikely. Other opinions appreciated. Picaroon (t) 02:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
