Talk:You're So Vain

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[edit] who or whom?

in the phrase "who[/m] is it about?", who[/m] serves as the object of the preposition; therefore it should be whom. why does someone keep changing this?

[edit] this song is about you

I can't help but notice that there's an e, an a, and an r in every man.--Heathcliff 03:53, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Same with Mick Jagger and Warren Beatty. :p--Kross 07:00, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
...and James Taylor --Kross
Don't know this music but was it covered by Chimaira rather than Chimera. Have fixed Janet Jackson a link also Alf 07:26, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I don't think the link belongs on the main page, but McSweeneys' rebuttal to "You're so vain" is painfully funny. TheronJ 20:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "hear-say"

According to word of mouth, Carly Simon invites people to her place in Martha's Vinyard; then she tells a certain group of people who and what the song is about. Before hearing this information, you must sign documents stating you will keep your lips sealed, "or else". A certain person (name not stated), said one clue he could give was, "it is not one person, but a group of people.

After hearing this my guess has been Republicans, which makes sense because the song was written in a democratic pause (Presidant Jimmy Carter)in the middle of a republican reign.

   The song was released in 1972 when Richard Nixon was in office.  Carter didn't become President until 1976.

The speculation stating the mystery man is Jagger, is completely absurd. He did the back up vocals for the song. Why would Carly Simon make a big deal about something everyone already new?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Iugetanurra (talk • contribs)

You're a liberal idiot. 216.114.251.82 03:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Over the years she has given 3 letters as clues, letters to many of the speculated names. A friend who was a study in music and a very serious personclaimed it may also refer to GERORGE HARRISON of the beatles. Is there any connection known between the song writer and Harrison? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.27.75.112 (talk) 08:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Think Dan Lasater. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharplaw (talk • contribs) 23:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speculation

  • Can anyone justify the inclusion of Carole King as one of the possible subjects of the song? I see no basis for speculating that the song is supposed to have a lesbian interpretation (or that either King or Simon are or were lesbians). By the way, the song was written and became a hit during the (Republican) Nixon administration, several years before Jimmy Carter became president. --Metropolitan90 01:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I put Daffy Duck in there because Carly Simon has mentioned that cartoon character in many interviews

Looking at the history of this page it asks where is there an E and an R in Daffy Duck, well I've seen every Daffy Duck cartoon and five of them Daffy Duck has said his middle initial is R And there's an E in it that if you say Daffy Duck really fast it sounds like Daf-e

Now you still might consider it a load of bull BUT there have been many cases where singers like to play big pranks and this could be one of the cases —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.25.140.101 (talk • contribs)

  • I believe there have also been cases where anonymous Wikipedia contributors have played pranks and this could be one of them. (No evidence has been provided that Daffy's middle initial is R.) --Metropolitan90 03:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

It's about Severn Darden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.53.1.177 (talk) 02:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How To Loose A Guy In 10 Days

Should we mention anywhere the scene where Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey sing "You're So Vain"?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.18.130 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Lyrics

um ... isn't it a copyright violation to include the lyrics? Salamurai 17:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is. Removing now. -- Annie D 09:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I think she actually did tell someone?

I think I heard about an auction where she actually told the winner the name, and then he couldn't tell it to anyone?


[edit] Illiteracy much?

Taylor doesn't have an E in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.69.3.99 (talk) 22:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

But his first name, James, does, genius. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.239.169.48 (talk) 00:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Logical

"Despite these guesses and many interviews asking who it was, to this day Carly Simon has never publicly acknowledged in full whom the song is about. She commented in an interview that it was about "many vain men I've known in my life". This may make the line "you're so vain, you probably think this song is about you" more logical than if it were about any specific man."

No it doesn't. --Quoth nevermore 15:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the sentence. Sibenordy 06:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Does anybody recall Carly Simon finally admitting, fairly recently (within the past few years), that the song, although vague enough to refer to several different people (most popularly Warren Beatty, I believe), was originally written to/about Alfred Hitchcock?

I'm pretty sure it was she who mentioned this rather than speculation by a third party, and that it was a verbal exchange rather than in print, but I haven't any way to confirm it, so it's possible that I'm mistaken. Is anyone else aware of any reputable sources that corroborate this? -=( Alexis 00:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC) )=-