Talk:Yi Dynasty

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I totally agree that the information provided needs to be checked carefully, and verified They are NOT facts, merely rhetoric, conjecture, propaganda, and fiction, with little basis in reality -- but, apparently, enough to get some people to give Yi some credence. The information provided in this entry is clearly biased, or propagandized, with many, many inaccuracies that are sprinkled with a few facts, many of which are blatantly slanted. And, it smacks of the work of Yi Seok, a pretender to the throne. Yi is NOT the crown prince. Crown Prince Lee Gu is the officially recognized and rightful heir to the Korean throne, and would be king if the royal house were to be reinstated. Prince Lee returns to Korea about four times a year to fulfill his duties as the last and only rightful Joseon/Choson Dynastic heir, crown prince, and official Lee family head and representative, and attend official functions, such as the Royal Shrine ritual. He lived, essentially, in exile in NYC, NY, in the 1950s and early 60s, where he worked as an architect. He returned to Seoul with his parents and family in 1963, at the invitation to live in one of the royal palaces by then-South Korean President Park Chung Hee. He remained in Seoul until his father, the king, died in 1970, whereupon the prince moved to Japan. His mother, the queen, remained in Korea, to to do work that would benefit her adopted country and people, whom she embraced wholeheartedly and with sincere commitment, and to be buried alongside her husband upon her death. She died in 1989. Prince Lee returned to Korea in 1996, in hopes of staying permanently; but, for whatever reasons, ended up leaving again., and taking up residence in Tokyo, where is is supported by a modest stipend from the Lee Family Organization and living somewhat reclusively. He avoids political involvement and publicity, but takes his royal obligations seriously, and continues to hold great affection and loyalty for Korea, despite his residential status. Japan is not responsible for renaming or referencing the Choson Dynasty as the Yi Dynastry. Yi Seok is the one who inaccurately refers to the Choson or Joseon Dynasty as the Yi Dynasty (probably as part of his efforts to establish himself as the rightful heir), and has waged a campaign to re-establish the monarchy, and establish himself as heir to the throne. Unfortunately, Yi has managed to get his inaccuracies published as fact, because articles have not been properly verified or substantiated, Yi has been successful at posting false information all over the Internet. Some of his information is laced with facts... however, his accounts are clearly racially-biased and antagonistic toward Japan. Such propaganda fosters Japan-bashing and feeds hatred toward the Japanese, which also contributes to Yi's campaign to steal the title as crown prince. It seems wrong for Yi to be able to use Wikipedia as a tool for spreading lies, historical inaccuracies, racism, and support for his campaign to steal the throne and reinstate the monarchy, with himself as king. Yi lives out of his car, a has-been pop singer, former lounge singer. He is not supported or recognized as a royal heir by the Lee Family Organization, which tells you how much credence his claims have. Unfortunately, many Koreans, particularly young Koreans, do not know who the rightful heir really is, which serves to help Yi accomplish his goals. Moreover, because Yi is constantly playing on and feeding old negative sentiments and resentment toward the Japanese and Japan with his special brand of slanted "facts," biased so-called historical accounts, and propoganda, he is engendering racism, contributing to and fostering anti-Japanese attitudes and feelings, and nursing antagonism toward Korea's neighbor, despite the official attempts to mend relations between the two countries and its people. It is time to forgive, forget, put away old resentments, and work toward positive relationships that will help the world communities, instead of serving one man's personal agenda and desire for wealth, title, and power.

Since everyone knows this dynasty as the Yi dynasty maybe a redirection page could be offered?

Not everyone knows this dynasty as the Yi dynasty. I've done the redirect now. diwiki 23:07, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Can you folks check your facts/bias? In Korea this is called Joseon - it's only the former colonizers (Japan) that insist on Yi. Please check things like this if you're serious about writing a good site or even an encyclopedia. --

         response:You should also get your facts straight. Japan is not the one insists on the name, Yi. Yi Seok, a pretender, is someone you can blame if you want to blame someone. Your own comment smacks of your bias.

Somebody with an account here, please move this page again!

Anybody can set up an account and edit Wikipedia: that is Wikipedia's beauty. If you see an inaccuracy, you can fix it yourself. Nevertheless, there is a response to the issues you have raised at the bottom of the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean) page. --Sewing 17:31, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Recent "Overhaul"

I like a lot of the information in the recent overhaul by 209.29.167.151/209.29.97.37. However, I don't think a lot of this information should belond in this article. For example, I think that the information on the current head of the family should probably be spun off into another article. Parts of the article seem to be lacking in NPOV as well but that's just my opinion.

Also, an article of this size should have some sort of outline (or table of contents or whatever). - Aoi 16 Sept 2004

[edit] Nationalist propaganda

I guess the article warrants a revision to edit out the more blatant chauvinistic passages in the superlative, as well as much off-topic historical rants on the policy of European powers and Japan to open China up.