Talk:Year of the Elephant

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[edit] Recent discoveries about Year of the Elephant

the article states "Recent discoveries in southern Arabia suggest that Year of the Elephant may have been 569 or 568, as Persians overthrew the Abyssinian regime in Yemen around 570" and cites page 7 of Watt's book ("Muhammad: Seal of the Prophets"?). I am very curious as to what these discoveries are? I can't remember Watt explaining it in "Muhammad". Are these archaeological discoveries or historical references from other texts? I am very much interested in finding what discoveries these are. It would be nice if someone could elaborate on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.151.176 (talk) 00:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Relevance to Muhammed PBHN

Is the sheik al-Sulami referred to Mohammed's father or what? Lycurgus (talk) 12:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Presume not, see family tree. 71.186.172.82 (talk) 01:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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Mr. Wikipedia, I would like to know Who is Halemah , this lady took care of Muhamad ,( in actual facts This Muhamad is Halimah's son not Aminah's Son ..................please clarify.

References: http://www.islamawareness.net/Muhammed/saw.html --Striver 15:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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I dont get it. Muhammad became Prophet in 10 BH, and was forty years old. Then, this date most have been on 50 BH. Then why does everybody say it happened on 570 or 571 CE? 571 Ce is 53 BH!--Striver 15:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't get it, according to the reference listed by yourself above 570 = birth, 610 = prophethood, 622 = hijrah 632 = death. 40+23, both numbers seem to add up not sure where you got the 10BH for prophecy check the AH date for his death 12th Rabi' al-Awwal, 11AH, prophethood 23 years so 12 BH at best for revelation at hira, even the first Hijrah to abyssinia is only 7 AH. Anyway I beleive the date is usually back calculated (hence the source says estimated at 570 in the article and 571 on the webpage), and is there is some variation due to corrections in the length of years due to the variability of the transition of months so you have to be careful if the narrator is a historic muslim source and referring to and counting years and months in AH or a western source attemptin to translate the years into CE which creates the error in the dating between sources. Hope that helps, I think your error arises from fixing 10 BH as hijrah or mixed usage of "years" interchangeably between muslim and gregorian calendars.--Tigeroo 19:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)