Talk:XVth SS Cossack Cavalry Corps

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The Cossack Corps was never part of the Waffen-S.S.

The article is full of incorrect statements. The Cossacks were up to the surrender part of the Wehrmacht. It should read: "By the end of the war, the S.S. attemted to gain control of the Cossack Division and transfer the Cossacks under their structure. Despite the refusal of General Helmuth von Pannwith to enter the S.S. together with his division (from beginning 1945 enlarged to the XVth Cossack Cavalery Corps) the Corps was placed under SS administration in terms of replacements and supplies without actually making the Cossack units a part of the Waffen S.S." The Himmler file in the Imperial War Museum contains a record of a conversation which occured on August 26, 1944, between Himmler and General von Pannwitz and his Chief of Staff, Colonel H.-J. von Schultz. An agreement was reached that the Cossack Division, soon to be the Cossack Corps, was only placed under S-S. administration in terms of replacements and supplies. Document H/22/41, Imperial War Museum, p.2.Bargen 11:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The Cossack Corps has never been in Albania! Bargen 11:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

the Corps was placed under SS administration in terms of — so the corps was part of SS, it does not matter, in what capacity and with what functions. You can make additonal arguments as to its allegiance to the SS, but its belonging to that formation is unquestionable and is supported by multiple sources. I understand XVth SS Cossack Cavalry Corps was the original title of the article, until someone moved it without discussion and trying to get concensus of the editors. I am moving it back. If there are arguments against the original title, they should be presented first, and concensus should be sought before unilateral move of the page. --Hillock65 15:41, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The title is not in conformity with the historical truth

To Hillock65: What makes you so sure that the belonging to the Waffen-SS is unquestionable when all serious historians are questioning this and even the still existing record of the agreement reached between Himmler and General von Pannwitz is stating that the 15th C.C.C. was only placed administration wise for logistic reasons under the Waffen-SS. Even the article explains that the Corps was not part of the Waffen-SS. By the way there is a great difference between the Waffen-SS and the political SS. But the title is wrong and mispresenting the facts. The SS has to be deleted from the title as it is not in conformity with the historical truth.Bargen 18:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)