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[[I prefer wudu rather than wodoo. The terms I used is from arabic and usually refer as wuduk. Wodoo sound more like vodoo. If need to merge, should be into wudu.Yosri 17:17, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)]]

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[edit] Reason

There should be information on the significance of Wudu for Muslims (I don't feel comfortable adding anything as I'm not too sure on the subject.) Swinger222 19:25, 10 May 2005 (GMT)

Indeed, I'm very keen to understand this concept further. It seems redundant to wash one's hands first, then wash the rest of your body including your feet. You're just cross-contaminating your hands again. Surely this originated as a method of enforcing general hygeine amongst practitioners of Islam, but even in historical times, even the lesser educated must have seen and realised this cross contamination? Jachin 00:54, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, it's a mix of hygeine and in many ways (I believe) it is more figurative action. Being clean before God when you pray. I mean, the only way for cleanliness since there is no soap or anything used is to wash everything multiple times. gren グレン 01:17, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

As a complete outsider I am curious as to how and when soap would be incorporated, for example after performing ones ablutions. Would you wash your hands with soap before, and then do the ritual washing, or could it be incorporated into the ritual? --Mig77 11:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major rewrite

I've rewritten a lot of the article to incorporate more detailed information such as, rthe classification of the acts of wudu, the significance of the wudu (still stubbed) and the wudu according to the four Maddhab (schools of islamic jurisprudence). I plan to include more information on the stubby sections. MP (talk) 11:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Origins

While the quote from qu'ran mentions ablutions there is no information as to where the details of the ritual originate from. Was it an established ritual from existing religious practices or was it explained elsewhere (e.g. sunnah/hadith). Perhaps someone with detailed knowledge could add something about the origins of the processes of the ritual itself. MrBudgens 15:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Could it have orginated from Christianity?
According to Christian tradition, the Pharisees carried the practice of ablution to great excess (Matthew 23:25). The Gospel of Mark refers to their ceremonial ablutions (Mark 7:1-5): For the Pharisees...wash their hands "oft"; or, more acurately, "with the fist" (R.V., "diligently"); or, as Theophylact of Bulgaria explains it, "up to the elbow," referring to the actual word used in the Greek New Testament, pygmē, which refers to the arm from the elbow to the tips of the fingers.[1] (Compare also Mark 7:4; Leviticus 6:28; Leviticus 11:32-36; Leviticus 15:22). (See Washing.)

[edit] mouth

This hadith includes whasing the mouth. --Striver 03:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Touch opposite gender by their clothing, not skin

If I touch a female who isn't my mother, sister etc. by their clothing and not on their skin, do I still have to retake my wudu? --Fantastic4boy 09:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)