Talk:Works of William Gibson

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[edit] Story element subarticles

I agree with the proposed merges of Screaming Fist, Ono Sendai, and Turing Police. Possibly Gender-bait could also be merged somewhere? --Quiddity 04:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I was unsure about gender-bait, simply because I don't know enough about a) the extent to which the concept Gibson's phrase describes is in itself notable (could deserve article) and b) where it should be merged to - Pattern Recognition, Crossplay, Gender bender?

As for the other story elements, Cyberspace, Megacorporation, Intrusion Countermeasures Electronics and Raygun Gothic have probably gained enough traction outside The Man's work to merit their own articles. As for Molly Millions, she appears in Johnny Mnemonic Neuromancer and Mona Lisa Overdrive, making it undesirable that she be merged in there. The Sprawl describes the setting, not the characters, so the only real place for the Molly Millions article to merge to is the Sprawl trilogy article. However, from the background reading I've done in referencing the William Gibson article, she has attracted significant academic and critical attention as being a strong, male-independent and archetypically cool cyberpunk heroine. Similarly, Tessier-Ashpool, for its length, is an extremely interesting standalone article which would have to be seriously truncated into a few lines if it were to be merged into Neuromancer. Hubertus Bigend deserves a shot at development, and would look wildly out of place in the (as yet) stubby Spook Country article.

See also discussion on splitting William Gibson's "The X-Files" episodes at Talk:William Gibson's "The X-Files" episodes. Skomorokh ^incite 11:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Hubertus also appears in Pattern Recognition, hence hard to merge. (Your sentence beginning "The Sprawl..." appears to be splitting apart the 2 sentences concerning Molly Millions ;) --Quiddity 18:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

You just can't comprehend the vastness and intricacy of my analysis, so I dumbed it down a little ;) Good catch on Bigend, I swear I have tunnel vision from reading Spook too much. Skomorokh ^incite 18:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I've asked for suggestions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies#Gender-bait. --Quiddity (talk) 19:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Capital idea. Skomorokh ^incite 19:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

As belated followup: Talk:Passing (gender)#Gender-bait was the only possible merge location, but isn't appropriate. "Gender-bait" does appear to be the only term for the concept, so it should remain a standalone article for now. -- Quiddity (talk) 21:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the effort. Skomorokh ^incite 21:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)