Talk:With or Without You
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[edit] Naming
Should "Without" in the article title be de-capitalized? The word is used as a preposition [1], and our naming conventions say not to capitalize prepositions in song titles. Coffee 18:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
If someone decides to amend this, what happens to the pages with links to it? Are they going to be changed automatically? Also, I seem to have read in several places that song titles' words all start with caps? Was I wrong? I do understand that WP has its own rules (which may be universal encyclopic rules), however I guess the song title as spelled here is a bit of both. This would affect other articles as well, since most list songs, and you would have an article with correctly spelled songs and incorrect ones --Dollvalley 16:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sources?
Seems to me this article contains quite a few unsourced statements and personal opinions. "According to Bono, the song was heavily influenced by Scott Walker's album Climate of Hunter." "The song is U2's second most frequently covered song." "'With or Without You' is also widely considered one of U2's most overtly emotional songs" (considered by whom?). Personally I'd like to see some references. Amina skywalker 19:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- I added the information on the first two statements. The source is U2.com [2]. Acegikmo1 19:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources? Ovid?
"So I can't live either without you or with you."
It's not Ovid's quote, it was Martial as far as I know.
See Martials Epigrammata XII, 46, 2 (orig.: "Nec tecum possum vivere nec sine te.")
[edit] Usage In Friends
The song was used in the show 3 times, not 2. The first is when Ross kisses Rachel for the very first time - that's why it sort of became their theme song. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dalmatin (talk • contribs) 23:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Meaning
Can someone add what the official meaning of the song is? I've heard all sorts of theories but none that have an official source to back it up. Among the explanations I heard are the relationship between: a man and a woman, Bono and his wife, God and Jesus, Bono and God, a drug addict and drugs. I'm confused... F15x28 21:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
