Talk:Wire rope

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Just added a fair bit of stuff to this page. I'm a mechanical engineer interested in this topic. Happy to discuss changes with others here...? Bernard S. Jansen 08:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Also interested in wires. However this article is mainly on steel wire rope. Other wire materials should be added, such as Polyester, Nylon, PE/HMPE and Aramid --12:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)MBLe

Contents 1 We need. 2 Materials 3 Left-hand lay image 4 Isn't this stuff also called cable?

[edit] We need.

We need to add some info on nylon and other coatings. I would, but I dont know anything about them.

Anything I write would most likely be wrong. ha.

[edit] Materials

The focus of this article is steel wire rope (pointed out above). Feel free to add other materials, though it is likely that steel wire rope is a topic worth it's own page anyway. Until we get a lot more info on other types, probably best to bundle it all together. Bernard S. Jansen 01:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Left-hand lay image

This seems to show right-hand lay wire rope, or maybe some right-hand lay strands making up left-hand lay rope. (I'm not an expert.) If it's right-hand lay strands making up left-hand lay rope, that should be explained in the caption, IMHO. Lou Sander 02:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

In this image, the individual wires are layed in a right-handed fashion to form each strand. The strands are then layed in a left-hand fashion to form the rope. The rope is called left-hand lay because the strands are layed in a left-hand manner. This is regardless of how the wires are layed to form each strand; however, the rope is also called an ordinary lay rope because the wires are layed into strands in the opposite direction to which the strands are layed to form the rope. I've tried to expalain this in the text of the article. If, after reading this, and the article, you can see a clearer way of explaining this concept, please edit the article. If I'm still not clear, let me know. That wouldn't be your fault, we just need to find the clearest way of expalaining the concepts. Bernard S. Jansen 04:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I added a sentence to each of two captions, hopefully making things clearer. (If it didn't, feel free to reverse it.) I think I was initially confused because the first photo in the article has solid strands (if that's the right terminology) in a right-hand lay rope. When I looked at the other pictures with multiple-wire strands, I focused on the individual strands instead of the rope itself, not realizing that I was looking at a rope made of multiple-wire strands.

This article was very interesting to me, since years ago I was on a Navy cargo ship that had all sorts of wire rope around (including spring lay), but I never knew much about it. Also I've seen a couple of Roebling historical markers here near Pittsburgh. Lou Sander 13:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The caption looks good. If you click on the first photo in the article you get a bigger version, and you can just make out the individual wires making up the strands, though I agree that it's not clear. Maybe this photo is past its use-by date... Bernard S. Jansen 01:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Isn't this stuff also called cable?

I thought (in the US) a common alternate word for wire rope is 'cable'. Wire rope is a better term since it distinguishes this use from electrical cable, but shouldn't this alternate term be mentioned? --Chetvorno^TALK 17:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)