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[edit] Merger

All of this should be merged into the Phoenix Coyotes article and this name redirected, as is done with most sports franchises that have moved. RickK 01:02, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

  • Possibly the NHL portion should be merged with the Phoenix Coyotes article, however the WHA Jets should probably remain a seperate article. Also, the saga of the Jets in Winnipeg is not yet considered over by some die hard fans!--Nordberg 19:06, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • The article should stay where it is since it represents the WHA and NHL chapter of the Winnipeg franchise. There's also the regular talks of the Jets returning to the NHL. --Madchester 17:14, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC)
  • Also, the Winnipeg Jets have their own seperate identity within the hockey world, and that merits its own page. They may "technically" be the Phoenix Coyotes now, but the aura of the Jets is so strong that both are practically different franchises. It's like the Cleveland Browns and the Baltimore Ravens (before Cleveland came back)- Art Modell may have moved the Browns to Baltimore, but the Browns' prescence remained so strong in the National Football League that they essentially were not the same franchise. -RomeW
  • This should definitely stay its own article, just as for all other teams that have either ceased operations or relocated with name changes. The Jets and Coyotes, as far as I'm concerned, are two different teams with two different identities and fanbases. All they share at this point is some history. --Cholmes75 20:19, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Helped clean up the page. And yes, this should by far stay as its own article. --Dr. Pizza 04:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
  • The Winnipeg Jets should, as it currently does, continue to have it's own page. As it is stated on the history page of my website Winnipeg Jets Online.com (http://www.winnipegjetsonline.com) "The skeleton of the Jets moved south of the border and became the Phoenix Coyotes but it's heart and sole remains in Winnipeg where it belongs and where it will soon be revived." Go JETS Go! - Lauren Robb 1:45pm, 11 September 2006

Absolutely oppose. This article has enough information independently of the Coyotes article to be merged. All of the NHL teams that have moved (and still exist in the NHL) have their own articles. --myselfalso 00:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Color or colour?

Heyo, curious, how does spelling work on WIKIPEDIA? Color or colour since it's about a Canadian team?

  • There are a few standards by which to go; WP:ENGVAR discusses them. The basic one is that an article with "strong national ties" should be in that language variant; therefore the Jets article should properly be in Commonwealth English, and "colour" should prevail.  RGTraynor  13:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Hey, thanks alot... I changed the side bar to colour, but it didn't seem to work and killed the descriptors. I'll attempt to learn a little more about how wikipedia editing works before mucking around more, but in the meantime maybe someone could fix it (maintaing my goal of making it coloUr. - Nicholas
That's part of the infobox's template, not the article. I would add it in, but I'm not sure how to add it since I would then have to make both team_colors and team_colours optional, and I don't know how to do that. But, I'll read about them and test it in my sandbox. In the mean time, may I suggest making an account? Using an IP is fine, but getting an account would probably be smart because not all IP addresses stay constant, a lot of the time they switch, or may just be shared by an entire family or by a roomate who may happen to vandalize wikipedia and then you will also get in trouble for it if you use an IP. BsroiaadnTalk 18:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Winnipegjetslogo80s.gif

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BetacommandBot 12:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Winjetslogo3.gif

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BetacommandBot 12:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] new section: legacy?

I'm thinking the page probably could use a section that details the legacy of the Jets sine the move to Phoenix. I don't have any sources or even hard info, but it would be interesting if someone dug up data on how much revenue continues to be generated from Jets merchandise, or how the "Whiteout" phenomenon has persisted, etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.77.241.120 (talk) 01:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] THIN ICE

I cannot believe that nobody, NOBODY, has cited the following: Thin ice : money, politics and the demise of an NHL franchise / Jim Silver. Halifax, N.S. : Fernwood, 1996. (Mchelada (talk) 23:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC))

You're more than welcome to put it in the article. Is there anything in particular you wish to cite?  RGTraynor  13:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
"As the NHL expanded in the United States, operating costs and salaries grew rapidly..." This summery creates the appearance that the primary reason behind the demise of the Jets was due to both economics and declining player quality. The “various schemes” devised are given secondary priority. Thin Ice reverses the position. It devotes substantial time to explaining the intricate relationships between the government, the business community, and grass roots organizations in reaction to the new marketplace of the NHL, a relationship which is not simply confined to the 1990s, but had existed from the moment the team was born in the 1970s. That deserves more than a passing reference. Presently, I am still reading the book and may elaborate the article when finished.(Mchelada (talk) 22:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC))